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| I would like to say to the fans that came to Craven Park thank you. It was a sad day for our club with Colin Hutton passing away. The Bulls fans was singing and making themselves heard which is great but when the time came for our tribute to Colin and the minutes silence they showed amazing respect by being quiet and also joining us in the minutes silence. Just awesome and I really cant say thank you enough. BUT!!!!!!! quite a few of us in the east stand was appalled by the way Leon Pryce was slagging team members, ripping into players for there mistakes, even though he was at fault for more then his share of our tries. You scored 1 try and he didn't even shake the guys hand or say well done to him. On a few occasions when we scored he didn't even stand with his team behind the sticks. Quite a few players got a tongue lashing for no reason and he then kept going back and having a go at them. I wouldn't mind if he did out but he didn't. He thinks he is above any of your players as he has played SL but we all said, we think he will either leave, be thrown out or the players will refuse to play in the same side. Ive never seen a player who had no respect for his players like he did and it was disgusting to see.
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| Think you might want to go tweet this to @leonpryce6, as seems a dig at him rather than preaching to us Bulls fans about him.
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| Quote: No7.David.Bishop "I would like to say to the fans that came to Craven Park thank you. It was a sad day for our club with Colin Hutton passing away. The Bulls fans was singing and making themselves heard which is great but when the time came for our tribute to Colin and the minutes silence they showed amazing respect by being quiet and also joining us in the minutes silence. Just awesome and I really cant say thank you enough. BUT!!!!!!! quite a few of us in the east stand was appalled by the way Leon Pryce was slagging team members, ripping into players for there mistakes, even though he was at fault for more then his share of our tries. You scored 1 try and he didn't even shake the guys hand or say well done to him. On a few occasions when we scored he didn't even stand with his team behind the sticks. Quite a few players got a tongue lashing for no reason and he then kept going back and having a go at them. I wouldn't mind if he did out but he didn't. He thinks he is above any of your players as he has played SL but we all said, we think he will either leave, be thrown out or the players will refuse to play in the same side. Ive never seen a player who had no respect for his players like he did and it was disgusting to see.'" Im aftaid as a Bradford fan who was at the game I have to say I pretty much agree with the above.Its a fine line between trying to motivate the players to better efforts or just destroying what little confidence they have.Its only the first game so hopefully lessons can be learned.
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| Well I wasn't there unfortunately, but what exactly did he say?
I assume we aren't confusing it with passion and commitment to the club, something we haven't seen much of in the last year or so!
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| Leon has publicly stated that we will not celebrate a defeat. Maybe he was chastising them for doing the simple things wrong. For example ball security, a poor pass etc.
Even at amateur level we get a bollocking if we do the simple things wrong. I know we have a young side and we are all behind the lads 100% and we appreciate that not all of them are at Championship standard. But let's not forget these are paid professionals as well regardless of age so Leon maybe bollocking them for not doing the basics right which they have done from the age of 6-8?
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| Without doubt its a difficult one.It just seemed at times his body language didnt seem great.However without knowing what was been said its difficult to make a true assesment of it all.Also I agree its good to see genuine passion out on the field as long as it channelled in the right areas.
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| Gotta be honest, I was watching Leon and Ethan Ryan at Keighley. They seemed to be almost full on arguing on the pitch while setting up for a restart in the second half. It certainly didn't look like a standard captain's "come on mate, you need to sort that out" kind of word I've seen in the past from captains, and Ethan looked quite miffed at the way Leon was with him.
I hope it's people getting the wrong impression, as the last thing you want is people to get pssed off with the skipper and not really wanting to play alongside him.
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| Things always get frustrating in any team game as people make mistakes. Especially when they have only played 3 games together. Things will improve. None of us know what will of been said in the changing room after. He may have gone round and patted everyone on back.
Who knows.
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| Don't worry. If Prycey is going about pulling players up the wrong way then he will be pulled up about it himself.
If you've noticed it then the coaching staff will have noticed it too and they'll give him some guidance. Lets remember that it's his first job as Captain and as such he is still learning the role.
However, there is a difference between telling somebody they're dogshhoot and telling them that you know they're better than they're showing and you expect to see it.
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| Maybe he's adopted the Graeme Bradley role?
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| It's OK going on about 'simple things' [though I, sort of agree..] but let's not forget about match pressure which makes even multi internationals screw up a PTB or throw a 'wild' pass, or even drop a 'sitter', every now and then. The kids do need nurture as much as bollockings though. Fair enough, you [ican[/i be too soft sometimes but a bit of empathy rarely goes amiss.
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| I’m sure Toovey will help Leon with his captaincy. The young lads look up to him despite the bollockings.
I remember Robbie Paul writing in his book that Graeme Bradley used to give him some fearful abuse on and off the field. Jamie Peacock said similar yet Bradley was a great on field leader for us.
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| Quote: Bullseye "I’m sure Toovey will help Leon with his captaincy. The young lads look up to him despite the bollockings.
I remember Robbie Paul writing in his book that Graeme Bradley used to give him some fearful abuse on and off the field. Jamie Peacock said similar yet Bradley was a great on field leader for us.'"
The difference being a Bradley type figure can be perfect for the older more experienced type of player who really needs a kick up the backside. For a team full of kids, it's not always the right approach. I would say our captain today needs to be a different type to the captain that was dealing with the Brian McDermott and Paul Anderson's of the world.
That being said, I suspect you're right in that if there is an issue in that area, I would expect Toovey would sort that.
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| Bradley was also dealing with a 19 year old Robbie Paul and a 22 year old Jamie Peacock as well as the likes of Deacon and Fielden but I take your point.
We've lacked on field leaders for some years.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Bradley was also dealing with a 19 year old Robbie Paul and a 22 year old Jamie Peacock as well as the likes of Deacon and Fielden but I take your point.
We've lacked on field leaders for some years.'"
I'd agree with that. Captains of late have, rightly or wrongly, given the impression of being the 'laid back' variety. Maybe a slightly tempered down Pryce might be just the bloke we need?
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