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BRADFORD BULLS RUGBY LEAGUE CLUB ARE HOSTING AN OPEN FANS FORUM AT THE SOUTHBANK STAND ON WEDNESDAY 16TH OF AUGUST.
The forum will be held in the main event room of the Southbank stand, doors open at 6.30pm and expected to finish at 8.00pm.

Andrew Chalmers will address the loyal Bradford fans, then the floor will be opened up to questions.

The event will provide fans with an opportunity to discuss numerous matters relating to the club on and off the field.

Places are limited, we operate on a first come first serve basis.

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Quote: Bull Mania "BRADFORD BULLS RUGBY LEAGUE CLUB ARE HOSTING AN OPEN FANS FORUM AT THE SOUTHBANK STAND ON WEDNESDAY 16TH OF AUGUST.
The forum will be held in the main event room of the Southbank stand, doors open at 6.30pm and expected to finish at 8.00pm.

Andrew Chalmers will address the loyal Bradford fans, then the floor will be opened up to questions.

The event will provide fans with an opportunity to discuss numerous matters relating to the club on and off the field.

Places are limited, we operate on a first come first serve basis.'"


Got to admit when I saw his response to Fr13ay in email, I actually thought that was the first time he had said we are looking to do a forum this month as opposed to just saying we will at somepoint. Glad they followed through

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I have booked my place

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I am soooo tempted to go; but I dont need a used car at the moment.

I genuinely hope I am wrong; I really want someone to give us some honest answers on the Bulls future whatever that may be.

But the pessimist in me (comes from being a life long Bradford fan) thinks this will just be yet another rallying call to get more fans to go to the remaining home games because AC needs more money to come in before the next Administration.

I fully expect several of the following quotes;
- there is a lot happening,
- this is an important transition period,
- an academy team is a priority,
- we need to show our support,
- we cant let the lads down,
- RL needs a strong Bradford club,
- blah, blah, bah

Seriously I hope I'm wrong; and I genuinely hope that those that do go to the forum get some straight answers (without the sales pitch) and can come away feeling reassured.

But until I actually see things happening - AC can talk as much as he wants -we all paid for a used car from Mr Green and it was never delivered - I'm not falling for that one again.

(If I do decide to turn up - it will be incognito)

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I this for real? They usually send an email or at least put it on Facebook. They never learn about communication do they?

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It is on facebook, twitter and the club website. Not sure they could have made it anymore clearly advertised.

If they had have just emailed season ticket holders, they'd have been accused of valuing them more than people who pay on the gate.

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Quote: Smack him Jimmy "I am soooo tempted to go; but I dont need a used car at the moment.

I genuinely hope I am wrong; I really want someone to give us some honest answers on the Bulls future whatever that may be.

But the pessimist in me (comes from being a life long Bradford fan) thinks this will just be yet another rallying call to get more fans to go to the remaining home games because AC needs more money to come in before the next Administration.

I fully expect several of the following quotes;
- there is a lot happening,
- this is an important transition period,
- an academy team is a priority,
- we need to show our support,
- we cant let the lads down,
- RL needs a strong Bradford club,
- blah, blah, bah

Seriously I hope I'm wrong; and I genuinely hope that those that do go to the forum get some straight answers (without the sales pitch) and can come away feeling reassured.

But until I actually see things happening - AC can talk as much as he wants -we all paid for a used car from Mr Green and it was never delivered - I'm not falling for that one again.

(If I do decide to turn up - it will be incognito)'"


Indeed. Catch22 im afraid. Everyone wants more communication, but Green was brilliant at communicating amd looked how that turned out. I never went to the Green forums, but they sounded fantastic and basically everything as a fan we wanted to hear, was said. So we could come away having heard everything we want to, but then don't believe a word he says because we've been burned so many times. We need answers on the squad (e.g. despite being in L1, will Hallas, Tonga, Gibson still be with us) are we FT, PT, or both.

One thing from the press release was that they will be questions from the fans, so we can put AC on the spot again. Did Green forums offer questions or was it just him spouting lies to us?

One thing i don't think will ever happen is us going into admin with AC (famous last words) The RFLs heads are on the line and hopefully they will ne monitoring us like a hawk this time. But we may not have much ambition or funds to move forward icon_sad.gif

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If Toovey's outragous blurb in today's T&A is a precurser to the content to be expected from the meeting then it will be another load of naive Bulls-hit.

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If people are fearful of another sales job, why not attend and call it out? I'm going and I've got some very awkward questions

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Is it an hour and half long? I can see everyone been there a bit longer!!!

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Is it worth us getting our heads together to decide on some questions? I'm more than happy to ask a few. Are others?

Here's some I've come up with:

Questions for Chalmers

• After the worst season in over 50 years and relegation to the bottom tier of the game is there any reason for optimism?
• What contribution – financial or otherwise - does Graham Lowe make towards the running of the club
• Do you take a salary from club income?
• Why did you come halfway around the world to run this club?
• Who at the club is responsible for marketing?
• If in 2018 the first team is to be a mix of full time and part timer players what’s the estimated percentage split you are planning for?
• Is the club prepared to spend the money required to attract the best part time talent?
• Can you guarantee the club will continue to run a tier one academy that includes U16s and U19s teams while you are in charge?
• With regard to Odsal are you aware of any plans for the redevelopment of the stadium?
• Is the club likely to move home during the next 3 years?
• Successive regimes have failed to make ends meet resulting in administration and liquidation. What makes you think you will do any better?
• Why are club press releases full of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors?
• Do the club get income from food and drink sales in the ground? If so why are club bars allowed to run out of food and drink regularly?
• Why does the club not have an online shop?
• Why does the club not post its shop opening hours on its website?

Questions for Toovey if he’s there…

• Are you staying on as head coach in 2018?
• If some players are part time and others full time how will you ensure training is coordinated so that the team isn’t training with players missing?
• Will we using the dual registration system with a Super League club in 2018? If so who?
• How much will we be using the player loan system in 2018?
• In 2017 you didn’t know who was available one week to the next and performances suffered as a result. If we do use dual reg/loans how will you improve the integration of loan players and dual reg players into the squad to ensure the team plays with more harmony?
• This year the team has been bullied repeatedly on the field, particularly in the forwards. Can you confirm that you will be addressing this weakness in recruitment for 2018?

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What was all that bullsheet regarding the away shirt?

Either 1) It was always the intention for the shirt to be different to the one marketed, and you lied to us all while marketing the pre-sales, or 2) It turned up wrong and you lied to us all when you said it was always intended to be that one.

Which specific lie was it and how exactly do you expect intelligent fans to trust you when you are quite clearly feeding them these kind of lies?


(I don't expect this to be asked or answered, I'd just be quite interested to see them squirm over it)

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Suggest you rock up and ask that one yourself icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Bullseye "Is it worth us getting our heads together to decide on some questions? I'm more than happy to ask a few. Are others?

Here's some I've come up with

Good questions Bullseye. I know some people are racked off and i don't blame them. But now is the time to put your frustrations to the club. This will be the end of the Bulls, or the beginning of the rebuild. If we keep the hardcore fans on board and start winning a few games and maybe earn promotion, for the first time in about 10 years we will start moving forward as a club rather than rock bottom, to even more rock bottom. If we let them know our feelings then they have to act. If not it's the end of the club.

Mine are more requests than Questions. I can't make it but if someone fancies asking them 3.59912109375:5
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