FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Clubs to vote against a Bradford Newco
109 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Moderator12488No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
disney/00004.gif
Huddersfield Giants 2013 over achievers Huddersfield Giants 2014 under achievers ??????????:disney/00004.gif

Moderator


dont know if this has been mentioned or which thread to put it so mods feel free to move it.

according to todays Daily Mirror it says that 5 SL clubs will vote against a Newco Bradford staying in SL. It needs 7 to vote against them to give them quorate although the RFL can veto any decision by the clubs.

Dont know where that leaves Bradford or SL for this season.

RankPostsTeam
International Star837
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2022Jan 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
53644_1328694740.jpg
PHIL CLARKE: "[u:1stkxa1p][b:1stkxa1p]THE BULLS ARE BACK[/b:1stkxa1p][/u:1stkxa1p]" :-):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53644.jpg



I thought SL clubs weren't going to vote?

RankPostsTeam
International Star141No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2014May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67078_1338754951.jpg
[size=85:97hs1sj6][i:97hs1sj6]'League is much much more physical than Union, and thats before they start breaking the rules' - Adrian Hadley[/i:97hs1sj6][/size:97hs1sj6]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67078.jpg



Quote: RhinoLaney "I thought SL clubs weren't going to vote?'"


They arent this week. But if a newco buys the bulls they will.. although it is down to the RFL ultimately.

Curious which 5 are against it.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Indeed.

Just as a thought: if the club exited administration via a CVA, there would not BE any Newco...

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8024No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
36788_1300836245.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36788.jpg



Quote: Adeybull "Indeed.

Just as a thought

Please please please be the CVA route.

RankPostsTeam
International Star141No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2014May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67078_1338754951.jpg
[size=85:97hs1sj6][i:97hs1sj6]'League is much much more physical than Union, and thats before they start breaking the rules' - Adrian Hadley[/i:97hs1sj6][/size:97hs1sj6]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67078.jpg



Quote: Adeybull "Indeed.

Just as a thought

Hmmm so if we are bought we will still be Bradford Bulls Holdings Ltd and there wouldnt be a vote? I saw this in the sun too.. Do they get to vote due to the fact we've entered admin?

MDF
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1769No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Jan 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14000.jpg
//mikefarren.wordpress.com/:14000.jpg



Quote: AdeleMC "Do they get to vote due to the fact we've entered admin?'"

It suggests rlhererl that the clubs do get a vote, but that the vote wouldn't be binding

RankPostsTeam
International Star1149
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Nov 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Guess if there was serious consideration being given to reducing the size of SL - then voting to kick out the Bulls now would take some of the pressure off the smaller, less well supported clubs who would have been more at risk if the Bulls had not got themselves into the mess.

Pulls pin and retires to safe distance: like ........................... Please complete with your own choice

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: AdeleMC "Hmmm so if we are bought we will still be Bradford Bulls Holdings Ltd and there wouldnt be a vote? I saw this in the sun too.. Do they get to vote due to the fact we've entered admin?'"


No idea on the last point, but yes it COULD be the same entity. In practice, if it was me doing it I would try and ringfence the old company by keeping it active as the vehicle for the CVA, but transferring the business undertaking to a new company with a very strong security in favour of the old company to protect the creditors' interests. But that then WOULD be a Newco, in all likelihood.

You could indeed leave the existing company in place, but that would mean finding some way of removing the shareholders who were not in your camp, or inducing them to go. Whether the public damnation for stymying a viable way forward for the club would be enough to help faciltate that, in view of some of the clear hatreds between them, I really would not want to risk a guess!

RankPostsTeam
International Star332No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Jul 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Northernrelic "Guess if there was serious consideration being given to reducing the size of SL - then voting to kick out the Bulls now would take some of the pressure off the smaller, less well supported clubs who would have been more at risk if the Bulls had not got themselves into the mess.

Pulls pin and retires to safe distance

Any small time club insecure about their own future in SL. I would like to think that any club who has done this in the past would not vote against us (even though the rules have now been changed) as a point of honour. But i doubt it.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: hi de hi "Any small time club insecure about their own future in SL. I would like to think that any club who has done this in the past would not vote against us (even though the rules have now been changed) as a point of honour. But i doubt it.'"


Caisley voted against London being re-admitted, IIRC. It would be prudent to assume that Mr Hughes might feel entitled to return the favour?

RankPostsTeam
International Star1300No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Adeybull "Indeed.

Just as a thought

Then it would be the same club that in 8/9 months has had huge advances/loans, sold its ground, got its fans to raise 500K, had players selling rings/medals, had directors and shareholders squabbling in the media, gone into administration, sacked loyal coaches and staff, snubbed players etc etc.

It is possible that SL clubs think removing such a club from SL is an appropriate action.

There will also be clubs targeting bulls players and keen not to pay transfer fees and maybe clubs wanting a share of the Sky money.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4334
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
54039_1294695296.jpg
[b:p889vjdy][i:p889vjdy][color=#FF0000:p889vjdy]BULLSBOY2011:[/color:p889vjdy][/i:p889vjdy][/b:p889vjdy] [i:p889vjdy][color=#0000FF:p889vjdy][size=85:p889vjdy]'Pain is temporary, Pride is forever!'[/size:p889vjdy][/color:p889vjdy][/i:p889vjdy] [color=#FF40BF:p889vjdy]Bradford Bulls Fan Since Birth :)[/color:p889vjdy]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54039.jpg



Well Wigan and Warrington chairmen have already said they will vote to keep us in. I bet my left ballsack that Salford, Castleford, London, Wakefield and Hull KR are the 5.

Castleford and Salford have financial problems.
Wakey are taking the p*ss with their stadium.
Hull KR are financially not in the best of places.
We voted London out ages ago (they have gone down bad since then too).

If we go out all them 5 teams will be more secure, they will be thinking about themselves rather than what we could potentially do. If the Bulls become a strong force again we would take 2,000-2,500 to there grounds, basically giving them money.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1649No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Fozzie%20Bear.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Fozzie%20Bear.gif



Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Well Wigan and Warrington chairmen have already said they will vote to keep us in. I bet my left ballsack that Salford, Castleford, London, Wakefield and Hull KR are the 5.

Castleford and Salford have financial problems.
Wakey are taking the p*ss with their stadium.
Hull KR are financially not in the best of places.
We voted London out ages ago (they have gone down bad since then too).

If we go out all them 5 teams will be more secure,[size they will be thinking about themselves [/sizerather than what we could potentially do. If the Bulls become a strong force again we would take 2,000-2,500 to there grounds, basically giving them money.'"


Wouldnt you do the same? i would.

If all these clubs you stated are in dire straights with their own finances then i suggest this would provide an opportunity to secure a larger slice of the 'Sky Pie'. And give them all a stronger place in the elite division.

I dont think alot of SL 'fans' actually appreciate how much the Sky money does when running a SL club.

Bradford fans may well find out sooner rather than later.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2990No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13977_1335458918.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13977.jpg



I dont think you are correct with the 5 Bulls Boy.

Those clubs in trouble would be daft to vote against wouldnt they knowing they would face the same situation very soon?

Really shouldn`t be up to the clubs - should come down to integrity etc & I still feel Fev, Fax & Barrow (who applied for a Franchise) - do have a Legal case to pursue. if they wanted.

109 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
109 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


6.7255859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
27m
Leigh it is
Zig
95
37m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
38m
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
55m
Film game
Boss Hog
4084
Recent
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
Recent
Betting 2024
karetaker
187
Recent
Grand final Tickets
Azul
4
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leedsbarmyar
2421
Recent
Questions for Ste Mills
PopTart
4
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
45s
TV Games - Not Hull
bishops fing
2930
50s
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
55s
Wigan win academy final
Simba16
21
57s
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10104
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40182
1m
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
1m
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
2m
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
2m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Jack Burton
157
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Grand final Tickets
Azul
4
TODAY
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Grand Final Place
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
PopTart
4
TODAY
Decision on the field
MR FRISK
17
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
morleys_deck
24
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Tony Fax
3
TODAY
Sam Burgess
morleys_deck
9
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
RobRiches
91
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Trainman
11
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
Victor
3
TODAY
Championship Awards
FIL
10
TODAY
Season tickets
bentleyman
9
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
micktheleyth
11
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
119
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
252
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
810
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
847
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1243
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1466
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1206
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1618
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1319
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1548
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1728
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2068
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1682
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1713
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2041