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He denies all responsibility for the financial position and says the Harris transfer had nothing to do with it. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ls_report/
Pity he doesn't mention what happened to the Odsal settlement agreement and how, under his leadership, the club posted £500k losses year on year.
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He denies all responsibility for the financial position and says the Harris transfer had nothing to do with it. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ls_report/
Pity he doesn't mention what happened to the Odsal settlement agreement and how, under his leadership, the club posted £500k losses year on year.
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| Quote: Bulliac "He denies all responsibility for the financial position and says the Harris transfer had nothing to do with it.
I just posted this on the T&A as my contribution to the debate expressing very serious concern at what you were clearly concerned were “poor gates”. What were your plans as Chairman (other than your proposal for a “Sky Blackout” to rectify that situation?”
“Enoch Powell once said that all political lives...end in failure. Would you agree that the same can generally be said for the careers of RL club chairmen?”
Considered answers to these sort of questions would, I suggest, go a long well to helping people better understand the club’s present situation?
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| Quote: Adeybull "I just posted this on the T&A as my contribution to the debate expressing very serious concern at what you were clearly concerned were “poor gates”. What were your plans as Chairman (other than your proposal for a “Sky Blackout” to rectify that situation?”
“Enoch Powell once said that all political lives...end in failure. Would you agree that the same can generally be said for the careers of RL club chairmen?”
Considered answers to these sort of questions would, I suggest, go a long well to helping people better understand the club’s present situation?'"
You have far too much time on your hands
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| As so often Adey, just what I would have liked to say. Brilliantly put.
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| Pulsator2k7, actually I do not. I am extremely busy.
But I thought that it was worth it for me to take a few minutes out to try and make a meaningful contribution to what is a pretty important debate - since the debate has drawn Mr Caisley out of his bunker for the first time I can remember.
In the interests of those who might find that contribution helpful, rather than those who would just seek to deride it without making any contribution of their own.
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| Quote: pulsator2k7 "You have far too much time on your hands
But those are the questions caisley needs to answer. It's much easier to criticise what other peole have done without explaining what he would have done differently. Fully expect chris is now posting on t&a comments under one of his pseudonyms backing contents of his own letter and criticising hood further
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| Quote: Adeybull "Pulsator2k7, actually I do not. I am extremely busy.
But I thought that it was worth it for me to take a few minutes out to try and make a meaningful contribution to what is a pretty important debate - since the debate has drawn Mr Caisley out of his bunker for the first time I can remember.
In the interests of those who might find that contribution helpful, rather than those who would just seek to deride it without making any contribution of their own.'"
But as you are well aware no matter what you put on the T&A site it is that full of idiots they still would not inderstand your input
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| Is it?
I think you do some of them a dis-service. Go read some of the comments!
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| Caisley made some fair points though to be fair.
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| Quote: Adeybull "I just posted this on the T&A as my contribution to the debate expressing very serious concern at what you were clearly concerned were “poor gates”. What were your plans as Chairman (other than your proposal for a “Sky Blackout” to rectify that situation?”
“Enoch Powell once said that all political lives...end in failure. Would you agree that the same can generally be said for the careers of RL club chairmen?”
Considered answers to these sort of questions would, I suggest, go a long well to helping people better understand the club’s present situation?'"
Some excellent questions which I'd like to hear the answers to. However, if as you say the transfers of Sam and George only netted modest compensation then surely this reflects on the current board. I accept that Caisley is in a strange and untenable position but the way in which we capitulated to the demands of an 18 year old (George) is embarassing. Whilst overall I support your aim of holding Chris to account and hope (like you I think) this is the opening salvo of a battle which will bring a lot of dirty lined into the open, one cannot escape the validity of his key point - we have spent the salary cap or close to it every year and by the time of Steve Macs departure we were the worst team in the league. In a bizarre way I think the chief criticism of either side by the other is valid. Harrisgate has severely damaged the club and this has been excasserabated by an abysmal recruitment and retention policy.
Can you all get lost please?
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| interesting to see what the club's (or Hood's) response will now be seeing as Caisley has directly quoted Hood in this letter.
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| M@islebugs: for sure yes, the seriously poor recruitment and retention policy is indeed all too self-evident, and Caisley is of course correct to point out that he was not in charge over these horrid recent years when the consequences hit home.
I think the really key issue - and its one I suspect we'll never really get to the bottom of - is to what extent that has been a consequence of the financial situation bequeathed to the subsequent administration, and to what extent the subsequent administration has been culpable on their own account? For my own part, I think it is a lot of both - as I think you do - although the financial situation must have had a cumulative corrosive effect on just about everything we have tried to do in recent years?
As for "spending the salary cap" - I think people know by now my views on the salary cap - and the aspects of it which IMO can amount to being optional in the right circumstances, should any club be so-minded. And, just as a taster for that: remember that Harris (or his company) was apparently receiving substantial payments from Publico for his image rights. Not from the club. Until the RFL ruled that - for whatever reason - those third-party payments (unlike those to e.g. Scully by Gillette) should count under the cap. And did anyone ever notice that Sam was reported as the new face of Bradford Lexus the day before his extended contract (yeah, right...! ) was announced...?
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| Quote: Adeybull "I think the really key issue - and its one I suspect we'll never really get to the bottom of - is to what extent that has been a consequence of the financial situation bequeathed to the subsequent administration, and to what extent the subsequent administration has been culpable on their own account? For my own part, I think it is a lot of both - as I think you do - although the financial situation must have had a cumulative corrosive effect on just about everything we have tried to do in recent years?'"
Agree with all that. Not sure if why Caisley chose to issue his statement really, bit narcissistic I think.
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| Quote: phillgee "interesting to see what the club's (or Hood's) response will now be seeing as Caisley has directly quoted Hood in this letter.'"
"Reading Bullette" has just posted it...
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| Well said Chris.
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