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| saying on the wire board that he did a lap of honour and was genuinely upset and was announced at half time that he would be moving on
i hope were not in the running for him although as fast as he is...he may finish ooff troes well but his defence is horriffic and as much as i dislike sherriffe i would keep rikki if the only other option is penny
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| Why would we be in the running?
They said at the forum that Penny was a good example of a youngster who had been thrown in by the club too early, and ruined as a result. The sort of thing Nobby used to strongly warn about.
Good job no-one on here is suggesting we do such a thing with our youngsters.
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| I thought Penny was a good example that you need some kind of defensive game even as a winger. Was half decent in attack but too lightweight. AFAIK he didn't have a rugby league background and started pretty late, so may have missed a lot of the basics that come natural to you in time.
Wouldn't say he was thrown in too early. Still believe the "old enough, good enough" when it comes to youngsters (e.g. Sam Burgess).
Problems occur when you throw in a lot of youngsters in at same time, especially in a team that really aren't performing well. Far easy for top teams to blood youngsters, always has been, always will be.
P.s. Wouldn't want him near a Bradford shirt!
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| Sam was a bit of a freak though - in the nicest possible way? You'd not say George and certainly Tom are at the stage he was at, despite making good progress nonetheless? Would you throw George in now where we did Sam? Depends on the individual, surely? Donno looked ready for it, for example?
Penny was a problem in defence. I liked the look of Finnigan, though - he seemed more than capable of mixing it with the other side's big buggers?
Agree totally re throwing in too many youngsters cos the first team is crocked/crap.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Sam was a bit of a freak though - in the nicest possible way? You'd not say George and certainly Tom are at the stage he was at, despite making good progress nonetheless? Would you throw George in now where we did Sam? Depends on the individual, surely? Donno looked ready for it, for example?
Penny was a problem in defence. I liked the look of Finnigan, though - he seemed more than capable of mixing it with the other side's big buggers?
Agree totally re throwing in too many youngsters cos the first team is crocked/crap.'"
Must agree Penny had a poor defence, and for that reason i would hope Bradford would go know where near him, as we cannot afford to leak any more tries than we already do.
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| "Cannot afford to leak any more tries than we already do..." Amen to that, brother...!
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| Quote: Adeybull "Sam was a bit of a freak though - in the nicest possible way? You'd not say George and certainly Tom are at the stage he was at, despite making good progress nonetheless? Would you throw George in now where we did Sam? Depends on the individual, surely? Donno looked ready for it, for example?
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Maybe Sam Burgess was a bad example. All I'm saying is if a lad is good enough, at say 17-18, then they deserve a go in first team without a worry that it's too soon. Then if they perform deserve to stay in the team ahead of probably more experienced players. I guess this is where you really have to trust the coaching staff.
I've never understood why Bradford has produced so many good forwards but rarely good backs, especially with real pace ( Leon Pryce?). Only reason i could ever come up with is that most of our coaching staff have always been ex forwards. More knowledge in the area.
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| Kevin Penny has zero RL talent, he's got a bit of pace and thats it. Thats why he hasnt made it as a SL player.
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| According to my Quins supporting pal Penny has come on quite a bit since the dark days when he came through.
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| Thought he had either signed or was signing for Wakefield according to a lot of our fans.
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| Quote: chissitt "Thought he had either signed or was signing for Wakefield according to a lot of our fans.'"
Worrincy and Penny? Are you preparing for a drop into the NL or something? Can't believe a SL club wants Worrincy!
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Worrincy and Penny? Are you preparing for a drop into the NL or something? Can't believe a SL club wants Worrincy!'"
Not heard the Worrancy rumour, but Belle Vue is the centre for unwanted SL players so it wouldn't surprise me. In a couple of years time you may find Bradford are in a similar position.
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| Quote: dixie "Maybe Sam Burgess was a bad example. All I'm saying is if a lad is good enough, at say 17-18, then they deserve a go in first team without a worry that it's too soon. Then if they perform deserve to stay in the team ahead of probably more experienced players. I guess this is where you really have to trust the coaching staff.
I've never understood why Bradford has produced so many good forwards but rarely good backs, especially with real pace ( Leon Pryce?). Only reason i could ever come up with is that most of our coaching staff have always been ex forwards. More knowledge in the area.'"
I don't necessarily think that Sam is a bad example. He was seventeen and he was ready, history is the judge of that. The real problem only comes about when it leads you to believe that this is the norm, because it isn't, it's an exception. It was different times as well though, the team was still playing reasonably well at the time, certainly better than now, which always makes the transition easier.
I agree that any kids doing well should be left in the side. It is up to the coaches, and they, I'm sure, would recognise that all players are individuals, and that some will cope with the step up better than others. Some can just be left and others need more nurturing, good coaches will know the difference and act accordingly.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Worrincy and Penny? Are you preparing for a drop into the NL or something? Can't believe a SL club wants Worrincy!'"
If Michael Worrincy gets another SL contract then his agent should change his name to Jesus Christ because you will never seen a bigger miracle
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Worrincy and Penny? Are you preparing for a drop into the NL or something? Can't believe a SL club wants Worrincy!'"
He's got to be in the running for the worst player in SL, not a chance he'll be at Wakey next year, thankfully.
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