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| It wouldn't be the Magic weekend unless a VR screwed the Bulls.
Great try by Kear wrongly disallowed.
Quote: was waiting "Laws - 14
An off side player shall not take any part in the game or
attempt in any way to influence the course of the game. '"
Langley? Check, check.
Quote: was waiting "He shall not encroach within ten metres of an opponent
who is waiting for the ball'"
There was no opponent waiting for the ball. The ball was kicked into empty space, and players of both teams went for it, but no Huddersfield player even touched the ball. It can be 100% said that no Huddersfield player "was waiting".
Quote: was waiting "and shall immediately retire ten
metres from any opponent who first secures possession
of the ball.'"
IF a Huddersfield player HAD "first secured possession", and Langley had not "iimmediately retired ten", then a penalty, but no such thing happened, so Langley never became under an obligation to retire.
Quote: was waiting "Notes
Any off side player who remains within ten metres of an opponent
who is set to catch a kick up field by an opposing player shall
be deemed to be interfering with or attempting to interfere with
the catcher '"
This explanatory note to the laws does clarify, and is obviously designed to clarify, that the "encroachment" rule specifically only applies to an opponent WHO IS SET TO CATCH a kick. Not even Ken Davy would argue that any of his players was ever set to catch the kick.
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| According to the TV panel Langley is not allowed to approach within 10m of the defender catching the ball. Langley follows the kick so is judged to encroach (I presume). McGuire had a try disallowed at the end of the Wigan game for an incident that also didn't affect the attack or defence but again was apparently spot on by the letter of the law. Both daft IMO & without VR both would have stood.
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| Makes no difference if we cant takle or stop knocking on we had no hope in the red firey place of wining that game totally outclassed, need Nas ans sidlow back soonish.
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| Quote: broadybull87 "Makes no difference if we cant takle or stop knocking on we had no hope in the red firey place of wining that game totally outclassed, need Nas ans sidlow back soonish.'"
Quote: broadybull87 "[sizeNote to muppets'"
Because it was labelled 'note to muppets' and you're not a muppet, Broady, you probably skipped over it.
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| Quote: tigertot "According to the TV panel Langley is not allowed to approach within 10m of the defender catching the ball. Langley follows the kick so is judged to encroach (I presume). McGuire had a try disallowed at the end of the Wigan game for an incident that also didn't affect the attack or defence but again was apparently spot on by the letter of the law. Both daft IMO & without VR both would have stood.'"
In the case of Elliot Kear's try. Jamie Langley should have known to stay out of it. We make too many sloppy errors to win matches against top sides and that was one of them. Just annoying when minor infringements that have no influence on the passage of play get picked up after seeing monumental clangers like we have this weekend.
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| Quote: tigertot "According to the TV panel Langley is not allowed to approach within 10m of the defender catching the ball. Langley follows the kick so is judged to encroach (I presume). or defence but again was apparently spot on by the letter of the law.'"
Er, but WHAT defender, there was no defender catching the ball. I don't think you've considered the detail I posted, Langley did not infringe either the letter or spirit of the rule (though he bloody well should have known not to get close, but that's another issue)
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| Langley was offside, get over it.
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| Seen plenty of similar incidents have a try scrubbed off in Sky games. In that instance it seems quite pedantic when he doesn't interfere with play but the ruling was consistent.
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| Langley was offside in the same way JJB was offside at Headingley earlier this year. Harsh, but it is what it is.
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| Sorry missed that last comment
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| Quote: Nothus "Langley was offside, get over it.'"
I'm not under it, nor ever was. What do I have to "get over", exactly? Why do people make such totally irrelevant comments? Nobody is disputing that Langley was offside, so I suggest you try reading the OP and see if you have anything to actually add.
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| Quote: vbfg "Langley was offside in the same way JJB was offside at Headingley earlier this year. Harsh, but it is what it is.'"
The question isn't whether he was offside, it is whether he broke any rule, and I've explained exactly why he didn't. Nobody has yet given a single reason why what I have said is wrong. All I ask is that the laws of the game be applied to the incident, and I argue they clearly weren't.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Er, but WHAT defender, there was no defender catching the ball. I don't think you've considered the detail I posted, Langley did not infringe either the letter or spirit of the rule (though he bloody well should have known not to get close, but that's another issue)'"
Murphy was the defender.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Murphy was the defender.'"
You seriously arguing Murphy was "waiting for the ball"? Or "set to catch the kick"? With respect, you cannot be serious.
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| Well what the hell else was he doing? Filling in his tax returns?
Murphy was waiting to catch the ball, Langley strayed within 10m
Offside.
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