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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Is there a link to the full statement anywhere?'"
Here mate: [urlhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/2213/club-statement-on-img-indicative-grading[/url
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| So the frothing at the mouth thick as **** lot spouting "how have the Bulls scored so highly when Odsals a dump", "it's a conspiracy" have been shown evidence that Odsal is literally the very thing stopping us getting into SL, yet they're continuing to peddle out its a conspiracy.
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| Strong statement. Only 0.25 more to be gained in community- so well done to the Foundation, our volunteers and the club for that.
The rest of it is tricky. I don’t think there’s a lot more points to gain in performance, without being in SL.
Finance is steady.
Fandom is difficult as it depends in part on being in SL, also having a modern stadium. Possibly not many more points to pick up in the Championship
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| So, off to Valley Parade then?
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| Quote Fr13daY="Fr13daY"So, off to Valley Parade then?'"
I think now is certainly the time to have that conversation.
It looks from the figures and the statement released that the ground is the problem - which is hardly "new" news...
There is no way in hell the Council will pay for an Odsal upgrade.
So we either stay put in a crumbling - but oh so iconic - Odsal and slide down the rankings with zero potential to be in Supper League ever again, or we bite the bullet now and get on the phone to Valley Parade.
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| Quote Fr13daY="Fr13daY"So, off to Valley Parade then?'"
No pitch is too small lol.
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| Quote Marvin Goolash="Marvin Goolash"No pitch is too small lol.'"
Ha! Yeah. If only there were a means upon which the RFL could enable a team to play on a smaller pitch....
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| Think the main stumbling block is affording the rent for VP. I can see the VP owners wanting at least £250k a year. The club would need to be very careful to ensure that any tenancy at VP enabled the club to access takings for things like hospitality etc too. The last thing we need is to get chucked out after a couple of years when it becomes apparent that the deal was unaffordable. That would plunge the club into uncertainty. I'm sure VP's owners would see they potentially have the Bulls over a barrel. They could drive a hard bargain.
The better option would be to have a new ground entirely but that's never going to happen. IMO the council have wanted the Bulls at VP for years. Perhaps they can make that happen sustainably by unlocking the value of the Odsal site?
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Strong statement. Only 0.25 more to be gained in community- so well done to the Foundation, our volunteers and the club for that.
The rest of it is tricky. I don’t think there’s a lot more points to gain in performance, without being in SL.
Finance is steady.
Fandom is difficult as it depends in part on being in SL, also having a modern stadium. Possibly not many more points to pick up in the Championship'"
I just posted similar elsewhere, I think on paper the Bradford scores look really impressive, almost like they are in touching distance of SL, but I think the reality is that they are almost maxed out on what they could realistically score. Going on various posts and statements we have to assume its very likely that clubs will need at least 13 points to be in SL which is going to mean Bradford have to gain a point somwhere and I think even the staunchest Bradford fan who understands the gradings would say that is going to be very difficult to do?
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Think the main stumbling block is affording the rent for VP. I can see the VP owners wanting at least £250k a year. The club would need to be very careful to ensure that any tenancy at VP enabled the club to access takings for things like hospitality etc too. The last thing we need is to get chucked out after a couple of years when it becomes apparent that the deal was unaffordable. That would plunge the club into uncertainty. I'm sure VP's owners would see they potentially have the Bulls over a barrel. They could drive a hard bargain.
The better option would be to have a new ground entirely but that's never going to happen. IMO the council have wanted the Bulls at VP for years. Perhaps they can make that happen sustainably by unlocking the value of the Odsal site?'"
After only 3 minutes thought - how about the council buy the Odsal lease and buy VP from (testing my memory here) the Gibbs pension fund? I think the last time this was discussed , which was pre covid, pre austerity and pre financial crisis, they were talking about £6m? Don't know what it would be now. Get Bulls out of Odsal & into VP - 3 shares? 1 each for council, City, Bulls? Would prevent the vague feeling of being unwelcome which I felt last time, do any upgrades/modernisation that is needed and that frees up the entire Odsal site for development which, if done well, would unlock cash, jobs, infrastructure for South Bradford specifically and the entire council area generally.
Get partners on board, University, utilise the motorway links, fasttrack the park & ride planned for the site, build towards the city of culture which should shake money loose as well.
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"After only 3 minutes thought - how about the council buy the Odsal lease and buy VP from (testing my memory here) the Gibbs pension fund? I think the last time this was discussed , which was pre covid, pre austerity and pre financial crisis, they were talking about £6m? Don't know what it would be now. Get Bulls out of Odsal & into VP - 3 shares? 1 each for council, City, Bulls? Would prevent the vague feeling of being unwelcome which I felt last time, do any upgrades/modernisation that is needed and that frees up the entire Odsal site for development which, if done well, would unlock cash, jobs, infrastructure for South Bradford specifically and the entire council area generally.
Get partners on board, University, utilise the motorway links, fasttrack the park & ride planned for the site, build towards the city of culture which should shake money loose as well.'"
Sounds great in theory but depends on the council having the money and support in the chamber for such a plan. It also relies on the VP owners playing ball and it relies on their being some developers that are interested in Odsal enough to unlock that value. I often wonder how valuable the site is? If it was really sought after then I'm surprised the Bulls are still there!
It also relies on there being some people capable of bringing all the above together.
I'd love it to happen but I'm sceptical as to whether the stars will all align. Bradford's failed to ever deliver a project of that size with so many moving parts since Noah was a lad.
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