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Quote: Scarey71 "Our glorious leader was, apparently, telling everyone who'd listen we were too light in the forwards for the game and the club expected to lose. Sounds like we went in as a club with that mindset.'"


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Quote: Scarey71 "Our glorious leader was, apparently, telling everyone who'd listen we were too light in the forwards for the game and the club expected to lose. Sounds like we went in as a club with that mindset.'"


To be fair thats 100% correct.

Johnson, Foster and Rob Butler are very poor and bring no go forward what so ever.
Appo should be at 13 not second row. Hes lack of mobility is costing us out wide defensively.
Reverse for Chester, second row all day long not playing in the middle of the park. Hes a great line runner and needs to be on an edge.
Scurr shouldnt be starting games. He has a stinker on Saturday. We need him to bring impact off the bench.

We are lacking a bit of a wrecking ball. Someone who can scatter defenders. I think thats what Matongo was going to bring. Speaking of which we havent had any update on his injury.

Add all of the above to the fact we have the slowest half back combo known to man.

We had a decent ish start to the year, now its drying up and the pitches are getting firmer we look so slugish due to the lack of speed in the halves
Hopefully Holmes isnt 2 bad and we get to see him partnered with Lawford at Barrow.

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Quote: RagingBull "To be fair thats 100% correct.

Johnson, Foster and Rob Butler are very poor and bring no go forward what so ever.
Appo should be at 13 not second row. Hes lack of mobility is costing us out wide defensively.
Reverse for Chester, second row all day long not playing in the middle of the park. Hes a great line runner and needs to be on an edge.
Scurr shouldnt be starting games. He has a stinker on Saturday. We need him to bring impact off the bench.

We are lacking a bit of a wrecking ball. Someone who can scatter defenders. I think thats what Matongo was going to bring. Speaking of which we havent had any update on his injury.

Add all of the above to the fact we have the slowest half back combo known to man.

We had a decent ish start to the year, now its drying up and the pitches are getting firmer we look so slugish due to the lack of speed in the halves
Hopefully Holmes isnt 2 bad and we get to see him partnered with Lawford at Barrow.'"


Agree with all that. Was baffled to see Appo in the backrow on the edge when Butler is far more effective IMO. Been disappointed with Josh Johnson and Rob Butler so far too. Foster was running the ball in strongly at the beginning of the season, not sure what's happened since. Scurr is an impact player for sure.

Think Matongo has a history of shoulder problems, I suspect he's awaiting a scan and an appointment with a consultant. It doesn't look good and I'd surprised if he's back any time soon. Would be good for the club to let us know what's happening though.

The halfbacks drive me nuts. Patton we know can take his bat and ball home at any moment and tends to do so unless he's given plenty of time and space. Lilley just isn't a halfback for me He's too slow to exploit any gaps. They both are. When did either ever make a clean break? Holmes and Lawford offer far more of a threat. If Holmes is out we seem to lack any spark at all.

Lilley needs to play at hooker, particularly now that Flanagan snr is reaching the end of the line. Jowitt can come on to provide a bit of cover.

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One positive from Saturdays debacle was Walker. To say it was his first game I thought he was excellent. Fax really picked him out and roughed him up by getting stuck in. But he was getting his nose through and if his team mates hadn't shirked thier duties, think he'd have caused them more problems as the game went on.

As much as I want to see Lawford, can only see Dunning sticking with Holmes/Patton with Lilley at Hooker for the next few games. Think that does have potential as Holmes is quick and then Walker at FB gives us more pace.

That said if Holmes isn't fit (knowing our luck it will be an ACL) Lawford has to start for me.

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Much as I can't see Dunning picking Lawford either if Holmes is out he has to come in. We can't go on with Patton and Lilley at halfback.

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