So if we are fit enough the problem is that the players couldn't be bothered? Kear seems to think it's an attitude problem.

You can blame a lack of possession and field position as much as you like but that was down to our weak defence allowing Sheffield to make 10m per carry and us taking the ball at walking pace and running laterally. If you add a kicking game that is on the back foot because of the lack of go forward we end up surrendering field position. They could put in attacking kicks and we couldn't.

As for expecting Crossley and Walker to be size zero - nobody is expecting that. However both players have been slimmer in the past. No team competing in SL or seriously competing to get there has players in that shape. This isn't the 1980s. I happen to think we have more "go forward" with them on the field, Baldwinson and Fleming aren't as good going forward.

We have an opportunity to show better attitude next Monday. It's the perfect opportunity really as Leigh will be hurting. Refusing to allow ourselves to be embarrassed would be a good start. Get stuffed and we go into Barrow match with 1 win from 3 and we could after that very easily be 1 from 4. Kear could be on a sticky wicket soon.

Widnes are thinking they are where we were 3years ago and Kear can stop the rot and at least point them in the right direction.

Poor old John how was he supposed to manage off his bulls wages until November when he's only got his BBC money and old age pension to fall back on.He's had to take another job.

I think Kear played boring "survival" RL.
The problem with the Bulls is from the very top to the very bottom, It should have been raked out after admin 1, admin 2 and liquidation but we have got the same staff that oversaw failure headed by someone who has failed in every RL roll they have held.

Granted Duffy is now retired.

The culture is set at the top. Is it any wonder things went on the slide Caisley>Hood>Khan>Green>Chalmers>Wood. There's a real decline in standard right there.