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Quote: M@islebugs "This talk of 'middles' detracts from the specialist work of props. Yeah, Thompson, Smith, Donaldson, Tetavano are all technically middles but if they're in the 17 with Gannon, Walters and Mellor, they're getting beat, and more importantly beat up, every week despite all of them being good players.

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Yes of course that's true, as it is at most SL clubs, there is a big shortage of genuine old-fashioned big "props" but the issue is which players getting injured will cause recalls of which DR/loan players, viz-a-viz your comments about no players being out on loan or DR by Easter (acknowledging that SL clubs often recall their DR players around Easter anyway, Leeds have 3 games in 8 days this year so that's a fairly safe bet).

I doubt Johnson will get recalled all season unless there's an injury to one or both of Leeming and Dwyer, for instance. I'm not so sure about someone like Mustapha because he's an out-and-out middle but being sent out on a long-term loan suggests Leeds would intend playing some of their back-row types as middles if Holroyd/Oledzki/Prior get injured.

So if he's say tenth in the pecking order he has more chance of being with the Bulls deep into the season than if he's, say sixth.

Same with other positions - if, for instance, a centre or two is being earmarked for Fev, their availability on DR will depend on whether injuries hit the likes of Newman, Sutcliffe, Tom Briscoe plus Handley and Fusitu'a.

I agree that if Leeds lose some of their bigger units in the middle to injury they will struggle in terms of results. Am not quite so sure I agree that that playing smaller players in the middle necessarily guarantees more injuries - I think all sorts of variables come into play there, including luck - but Leeds certainly have struggled with injuries in recent years, maybe the changes they have made on the conditioning side of the staff will help in that regard, maybe not.

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A lot is riding on us avoiding injury to either of our first choice halfbacks and our new fullback fitting in. Otherwise the attacking threat is decreased quite a bit. Obviously it's the same for all sides.

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I think our season rests on the likes of Doyle, Scurr, Kibula, Hall, Gill, Myers. Players with enough games but still unexposed as to how good they could be. The rest of the first 25 squad, possibly with the exception of Anthony Walker is baked in. Additionally, we'd need a Jowett, a Ho to burst onto the scene with a big first season like Bentley did. Lots of ifs.

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Also I think Patton could potentially have a massive bearing on the season could be a real coup being bigged up in the media

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I think Patton will have to have a big impact if we are going to improve on last season. Losing a proven leader like Brough who can directly control the game will be a loss. Add into the mix a new fullback combination and I feel we are definitely a bit of a unknown quantity and it’s reflected in the bookies odds.

I feel we’ve improved in some areas but weakened in others, so my expectations are a similar placing to last season.

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Updated 07.12.21

1. Elliot Hall -2023
2. Ryan Miller - 2023
3. Rhys Evans - 2022
4. Kieran Gill - 2023
5. Matty Dawson Jones - 2022
6. Dec Patton - 2022
7. Jordan Lilley - 2023
8. Jordan Baldwinson - 2023
9. Thomas Doyle - 2022
10. Steve Crossley - 2022
11. Sam Scott - 2022
12. Aaron Murphy - 2022
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14.George Flanagan - 2022
15. Dan Fleming - 2023
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18. Ebon Scurr - 2023
19. David Foggin Johnston - 2022
20. Brad England - 2022
21. Ajahni Wallace - ????
22. Coby Nichol - ????
23. Anthony Walker - 2022
24. Ben Evans - 2022
25. Jaden Barraclough - 2022
26. Billy Jowitt - 2022
27. Marcus Green - 2022
28. Bradley Ho - 2023
29. Jayden Myers - 2022
30. Lewis Camden - 2022
31. Samy Kibula - 2022
32. Charlie Harris - 2022
34. Joe Burton - 2022
35. Jarrod O’Connor - Loan
36. Muizz Mustapha - Loan
37. Corey Johnson - Loan
43. Elliot Kear - 2022
44. Eldon Myers - 2023

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