Oh dear. After what has been a thoroughly enjoyable season, I had, after relying on "tri-pass" tickets this reason, resolved to purchase a season ticket for next. Not too sure now, especially if we move away from Odsal. Being a City fan too I have no problem with VP but understand why others dislike it and it would probably be a very expensive option. Never been to Horsfall but it sounds pretty poor. Living in Haworth I wouldn't travel to Dewsbury. Might have to be Cougar Park for me

I don't think we'll move out of the city. I think it's just Chalmers using it as some sort of leverage in maybe wanting the counci l to sort something out regarding Odsal. Same way Michael Carter did with Wakey. Every year Wakey were moving to Dewsbury and Wakey seemed to gain some sort of small win from the threat as despite the council semmigly being D! Ck$ regarding their stadium, they didn't want them to leave Wakefield.


Personally think VP is out of the question unless we're in SL due to rent and it being unpopular ith the fans. Hoesfall has potential and could be beneficial both clubs working together.

Clubs are struggling financially even in the riches of football so working together makes sense.

Id hate to see us move out of the City boundaries Bradford should play in Bradford. How about a temporary move to the north of the city and share with Keighley.
Id much rather that than going to play in Dewsbury

Totally agree in terms of the cash flow. RL is not a rich sport and when you compare it with football clubs you can see why things can spiral out quickly.

Yes the Bulls have had a terrible track record but this was as a result of the consequences of sanctions, inexperienced owners without the wealth to underpin a club (all chosen and approved might I add by the RFL).

And yes there are some who are arrogant enough to believe Bulls should be a SL team, but I think you will find most of us are realistic to know we shouldn't be until we earn the right to go up.

However don't confuse being ed off with how the club has declined with arrogance... our clubs decline has been compounded time and time again by ad-hoc decisions by RFL and the other clubs who have just made up the rules regarding this as they've gone on.

2012 - Club is very badly run and makes terrible decision to ask RFL to buy leasehold on the ground in order to raise some cash liquidity. Results in bank withdrawing overdraft as the club now had not tangible assets (cue spiral downwards) and hence falls into admin with relatively low debt for a sports club.

2012 - Admin sell club to Omar Khan who doesn't have great wealth or experience to run club. RFL agree and SL clubs withhold sky funding (splitting it between themselves in a moment of self interest). Club run at loss and run up higher debts than is sustainable. Results in Admin No2.

2014 - Admin No.2 and club sold to Marc Green, who has a bit more money that Omar Khan but isn't the most trustworth in his dealings. RFL agrees to this and dock club more funding and a six point deduction. Club relegated and funding decreases further.

2016 - Club running at a loss for another two years has run up even bigger debts and now gambles on a top 4 finish. Miss top 4 and coincides with Greens security company going bust. Green no longer has money to fund vanity project and cue Admin No3 and Liquidation.

2017 - Club goes bust, RFL sell new licence with (guess what) no funding and 12pt deduction (for a new club pretty much a sandwich to get started with). With no funds from season tickets club relegated and funding drops further in League 1. Club run up biggest losses yet and by magic everything keeps getting paid out... until CCJ's drop in 2019.

Not going to play the poor us card, we deserve nothing from the league or other clubs but the decisions to kick the club whilst its down has happened several times now and would not be allowed to happen in any other sport. Therefore for anyone to suggest we get specialist treatment is laughable.

Looking at the Giants last set of accounts, I would suggest if your backers ever pulled out then I don't see how you would fund the gap in your accounts. Same could be said for most clubs too. That's to worry when a sport is based on a limited number of moderately wealthy individuals.

On a more serious note however... how is it that you can't sustain a good chippie in Huddersfield?

Ah - I see you fail to mention who gets to check, validate and approve ownership of these owners who become "The Bulls".
It must be a great process and I can only guess the job description has an Essential of "must be hopeless at sums" and must be an arrogant tawt"
Because thats what we keep getting as our owner - it translates to the Bulls being arrogant - even though its just one man with a not very popular column in the local rag.

Most of us on here just wish he's shut up.

Anyway - I see the usual has happened - a thread about where we might play has turned into a bitch fest (again).
Can't think why....

Oh yes - we are part of that "Rugby League Family" - you know - the cynical, bitching, sniping negative one we all love to be part of.

I'll give you one thing though - there are some quality real ale pubs in the centre - and its a great railway station too...
Oooops thats two - can't count - typical Bulls fan.

What about not paying your share towards the redevelopment of the SHay? What about paying no rent and getting locked out while the football club in the duldrums manages to pay it all. As has been said glass houses

I still think by far the likeliest option is that we will be at Odsal next season

I think Chalmers is indulging in a bit of brinkmanship with the Council - perhaps he's been taking lessons off Michael Carter

I mean, Wakefield threaten to move to Dewsbury almost every year, but they are still at that dump Belle Vue aren't they?

None of the other options make much sense, and whatever the shortcomings of Odsal (plenty), it's a case of 'better the devil you know....'

Well if he is then it won't work. You will struggle to find a worse council than Bradford when it comes to decision making on stuff like this.

As has been proved in the past - if anything they are worse now.

I wouldn't like to predict where this will take us - but for sure Odsal is going down the tubes fast.

We can't even afford light bulbs for the floodlights.

I would personally find it a big wrench to leave Odsal but if the club can't get an agreement on reducing the costs of playing there then it's something i'll have to come to terms with if it means the club can move forward and finally put the issues of the last decade behind us. It's hard to envisage where the money for any form of redevelopment would come from given all the previous failed attempts so it's probably inevitable that we'll have to move at some point anyway.
I still think the stadium is fine for where we currently are and better than a rash move out of the city if a deal can be struck with the Rfl and council.

Long term i think VP may be the best option if an affordable arrangement can be made with city and the stadium owners. It would meet all our requirements if we ever get promoted and it was on standby (apparently) to stage the CC semi finals if Bolton were unable to so appears they are keen on having rugby played there again. I got used to us playing there back in 01/02, although i still wanted us to move back to Odsal. I have some fond memories( i only recall losing there twice) especially the last minute penalty goal from half way to beat Wigan. The down side to VP, for me, is parking and it's all seated. City have spent a lot on the pitch last year to improve drainage so it should be in a position to cope with extra use.

The other options, for me, are non starters.

Horsfall- too small, no parking and the pitch allways struggles over winter with just PA playing on it. Their games allways seem to be among the first to be called off in bad weather.

Dewsbury - is a nice little ground and i quite enjoy going there. However, it's out of the city and could alienate a lot of fans. I wouldn't go to as many games if we moved there. Also capacity could be an issue if most fans did decide to go.

Cougar Park - may be in Bradford Met but certainly not in the city. It is also further from Odsal than Dewsbury but for each supporter will obviously depend on where they live. Would probably be about same as Dewsbury for me. Capacity here would be an issue too and it's just as exposed to the elements as Odsal. We would also be as welcome as an Adder in a lucky dip so it's a definate no for me

So , to sum up, my heart says stay at Odsal but my head says VP if we have to move.

I agree on this one with. Hopebull. To me Horsfall reminds me a bit like North Wales ground and it's more or less in Haro!d Park. I would prefer V.P. if it was possible to move there, but we will have to see what happens in the next few weeks.

Well, AC's column is out and it makes interesting reading.... https://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article ... exit-looms

Well, AC's column is out and it makes interesting reading.... https://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article ... exit-looms