The season really is dead we look like we are safe from relegation and no chance of promotion so why don't we change tack and start attempting to take risks, instead of this conservative style of play. If not, all the good work done with the cup run Will be forgotten and the crowds will tail off watching this style of rugby. I think JK has done a great job up to now, but I feel he has to change the style of play and can now experiment a little.

I honestly think we never really recovered from the Joe Keyes thing. He played all our friendly matches (or most of them) and was looking in good form. I'm sure he was going to be the focal point of our whole attacking structure. So to lose him for the whole season to date obviously rocked our preparations.
We then have the Pickersgill situation. Given a full time deal during the off season, for whatever reason things have turned sour. I don't agree with JK's decision to just drop the kid and never play him again but combined with McNally's departure it left us with a key position empty. Kear is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole by playing Ryan there imo - it's not working.
There is then also the situation with Chisholm. Not exactly sure what went on but he's gone now. Was this Kear's plan at the start of the season? I really don't believe it was.

Add in other factors like the long term injuries to Evans, Hitchcox and Peltier and the mitigating factors are starting to accumulate.

I might be wrong with all of the above but this is how I'm trying to justify our current performances in my mind. There has to be something behind why we're playing so poorly, I refuse to believe this is how JK wants us to play. I don't mind us doing the basics but performances like today's go way beyond that.

Hopefully we can just get our heads down and try and finish the last part of the season strongly now. Top 5 would be a bonus but I have a feeling we might just fall short. I can see us finishing 6th or 7th. To be fair, after getting promoted from League 1 last season I'd take that and hope to build on it in 2020.

The cup run and the derby against Leeds will have definitely helped in terms of finances and budgets/cashflow, so that is at least one positive to draw from this season already.

Fair summary

I thought the game was entertaining today. A great cup tie as someone above said it to'd and fro'd a bit and that was exciting. Happy that we've had the cup run for the club's coffers. That's the positives out the way.

We lost in two departments for me. Ball in hand and failing to get our boot on their necks when they had a man in the bin. Other than our first try we offered absolutely nothing in attack today. Lilley's end of set kicks were always too long and gobbled up easily by the backs. Did we even kick for a repeat set today? I can't remember if we did. The lack of ideas in attack was by far the biggest disappointment.

With regards to the sin bin, normally I'm a proponent of taking the points on offer but it's early in the contest and we had a four point lead and the penalty is 20m from their line so why not pile the pressure on and tire their forwards out? Kick for a repeat set even. Anything would have been better than taking the two there. Then what happens. We miss the kick for two and do nothing with the ball in hand because our forwards can't seem to gain the yardage that almost every other team seem to do against us. Then comes the inevitable dropped balls and silly penalties. It was extremely frustrating.

I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned Halifax slowing the play the ball down all game. Not that it had any bearing on the contest but to my mind the Halifax players were much smarter at the ruck and managed to con the referee all game in that department. It seemed to me like the referee blew up for every possible finickity infringement for us but when they were slowing the play the ball the ref turned a blind eye. There was one in the second half where our lad got up to play the ball and the tackler suplexed him back to the floor and the ref told him to get back up. It was laughable.

Abject performance with no ideas in attack. Disappointing.

Sorry Mum

If only we had a creative half who could rip s defiance apart with a bit of magic....



...I’m sure Fev signed one recently....

I thought today was dire. Its dull, dull rugby we play and I can't see many fans saying that they enjoy it.

Our one talismanic player we sold to a rival and he ruthlessly undid our poor play last week. We replaced him with a PT 19-year-old and a on-loan hooker. Our best FB was kindly let go to another rival, and replaced with another kid. Where has THAT money gone? Why have we not replaced them? We have no leaders on the pitch, utterly no idea in attack, and our early season resolute defence is cracking considerably.

I can see that this season WAS about consolidating our position in the league; but if that is the case why make such a big deal of these games? The advertising and media is spot on, but when it gets to the game itself it's like the players can't be ar$ed. The Leeds game was good, yes, but lets not underestimate how utterly woeful Leeds were. It's not like we were back in 2003, cracking out the champagne rugby; we were dull, but lucky. Having said that, there was NONE of the enthusiasm shown from our team against Leeds there today. At least that would have been something.

After last week at Fev, and another £20 spent today I'm trying hard to find a reason to bother going to Odsal next week TBH.

Seem to have ground to a halt, although our injuries have not helped.All this down the middle one out stuff is too predictable.Any progress we make this season is a bonus, but we must surely address the FB issue and we definitely need to grab whatever points are on offer..which points to our unreliable goal kicking options. I wonder how the kids will develop within the style of play JK is adopting and fear we are not going to be entertained any time soon with an expansive game plan. I just hope that some emphasis is going to focus on bringing in an experienced head or two to bind our play into a more consistant and cohesive set up.

Several posters talking about bringing in experience at half back and/or full back

I don't disagree, but who is available?

Genuine question (and please don't bother saying Chisholm, that ship has sailed...)

We are getting into attacking position but not presenting significant problems to the opposition from then on.

No bodies in motion or link play from FB.

Part of that is because we don't have a FB and it doesn't look like we practice anything except moving the ball along the line or a weak kick that is neither a bomb or a chip.

We need some variation in our attacking play. Fax and everybody else knows what we are going to do.

I hope to the Lord Jesus H that this Joe Brown is a FB because Ethan Ryan isnt one. His positional play and finishing is missed out wide.

Before today I would have been happy keeping JL and RM together.
If Keyes is fit then it will be JK and JL. As I've mentioned I hope that this Brown is a FB.