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| Never mind, the RFL may still get our thousands of fans at the Summer Bash next year - kicking it off with the League 1 Cup Final 
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| While it's good to see the academy being continued and a reserves team being set up I think the damage has already been done. The lack of communication and clumsily handled issues around visas, away shirts and admittance into the ground have alienated a lot of people. Add to that a team that's struggling and the "drag factor" of the past 10 years of decline and people have had enough. You can only take so much. Simply asking supporters to "get behind the Bulls" is a load of guff. We've been doing this through 3 periods of administration and look to be seeing our second relegation in 4 years. Next year will be semi pro in the bottom tier. This isn't something to enthuse about. The academy has been the one shining light over the past few years. It remains the case. I expect if that had been shut down then it really would signal the end.
You may see people come back on board when there is hard evidence of forward progress. Until then no. I would love it if Chalmers and Athwal prove me wrong but I look at Chalmers record in business and in RL and I have doubts. Lowe isn't even here and has bugger all to do with the running of the club. His business record isn't exactly exemplary either. I'm still unclear as to why they got involved. I suspect other forces are at work. The current owners have no money so I wonder where the cash is coming from to run the club or to recruit new players.
Thanks to Friday and FA for doing the interview. Had they not done so we'd be even more in the dark.
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| First off, thanks Fr13daY for doing this and getting this all typed up. Very much appreciated, and you've done a damn sight better than anyone in the local or RL press has at trying to get some clarity.
However I do have to echo that my reaction is also one of slight disappointment. Strip the names away and it could actually read like one of Marc Green's early missives, the mixture of cautious optomisim and genuine naivety.
I remain to be convinced they have any real money to invest. Says he’ll pay out for the right player, but it seems Chisholm was the right player, the Bulls payed out a bare minimum and arranged a friendly in part-payment.
The fact that they were seemingly picked because of their RL pedigree speaks volumes about the RFL (ChaLowe’s recent RL pedigree has been…questionable, to be charitable to the bloke who has given you his time – and we knew that from the off). Nothing there to dissuade the rumours that the RFL wanted them in day one and weren’t bothered in the slightest with other parties. However, the more I hear I think that’s just because the RFL don’t have a clue, not because there is a secret plan.
Other – financial – alarm bells include a superstore, essentially going part time and another layer to the academy. To me this doesn’t really add up – does a third tier part time club really need a superstore for merchandise? If we are going part time next year then (and this is a tough one) do we really need to be expanding the academy – I’m not recommending scrap the academy but it seems to be running before we can walk. Also if we do go part time, it’s hard to come back from that. Say we get promoted to the Championship at the first time of asking, I can’t see us going full time again straight away in 2019. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.
I appreciate he said some of this will come sooner rather than later, but tell us more of the sooner please Mr. C, as we still aren’t convinced there will be a later! Also the fact that plenty of businesses are saying “how on earth is this a new business? Same logo, stadium etc” – not Chalmers’ fault, but that is without a doubt coming back to bite us on the behind down the line I think (not sure how HMRC have just accepted that to be honest). Also the fact people will not leave steady jobs for the Bulls is a downer.
It’s good sponsorship for next year has been sorted, considering all that has gone on. However, I would also point out Marc Green was pretty good at that as well!
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"The interesting thing I picked out was that the RFL insisted on us starting with -12 AND PAYING OFF SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CLUB'S DEBTS. Don't recall hearing that bit before. I know it's the rfl so anything is possible but it's a bit like buying a new house and paying the previous owners electricity bill.'"
That was mentioned at great length in the interview I did with Ralph Rimmer at the start of the year - where £150,000 was taken off the remaining £165,000 to satisfy the Rugby League debts.
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| It'd be ironic if we got a new shop that fans could actually fit into at the point when there were no fans left.
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| Thanks Friday and FA. On paper the plan seems there to give the club a solid base and work up. The whole tiering of the academy and running a reserve team really leads me to believe the building blocks are being put in place for licensing to return. The same way Widnes got in, not overly great on the field at the time but well structured top to bottom. My little lad will be a few months off being five when next season starts so hoping he will be at an age where he will sit and watch and I will buy me and him a season ticket should what he said be in place regardless of division we are in.
Also the proof will be in the pudding if we now get a couple of players in now it has been put out there we are speaking to a couple of players in Oz. If im being totally honest I may be taken in by what that said but also like the small steps it reads as rather than the hope of back door entry to a higher league than we deserve to be in
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| Quote MicktheGled="MicktheGled"That was mentioned at great length in the interview I did with Ralph Rimmer at the start of the year - where £150,000 was taken off the remaining £165,000 to satisfy the Rugby League debts.'"
Although the rules regarding admin were a penalty between 6-12 points,[idepending on several factors, including how much debt was paid off...[/i
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Although the rules regarding admin were a penalty between 6-12 points,[idepending on several factors, including how much debt was paid off...[/i'"
Also Wood went on record saying the 12 point penalty was given when we still had a squad and a reasonable chance of staying up.
If we've paid some of the creditors after all then it shouldn't have been a 12pt deduction. I realise this ship has sailed but it just adds to my sense of disgust at the whole shady process.
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| Something I found particularly interesting in the interview was mentioning they are now looking to bring in a conditioning coach. The lack of one up to now could explain the hundreds of points eing run against us in the last 20 minutes of every match
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Although the rules regarding admin were a penalty between 6-12 points,[idepending on several factors, including how much debt was paid off...[/i'"
It's was the RFL who made that call to satisfy only the Rugby League side of the debt; the money we owed St Helens, Whitehaven, Dewsbury and ISC etc.
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| Still counts as some repayment of creditors. It could've knocked 2pts off the total deduction.
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