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| I really feel for you guys how many times are the board going to screw you guys over, you helped bail them out last time,
hope every thing works it self out for you guys, it wont be the same with out having the bulls around
all the best
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| Quote BD20="BD20"
Bulls going into League 1 would actually cost a fair few teams thousands in revenue. I doubt Batley, Fev, Halifax, etc v Barrow would be the kind of draw that the Bulls is to them, and the attendances would reflect this.
I fear the worst is yet to come.
I'm glad you think your huge support is so very important to the league to these little clubs you named above. We were all surviving and making this an exciting league when you were in SL going into administration and begging all RL fans to help give money to save your 'iconic club'
This massive fan base you have haven't saved the club on the last 3 occasions. It's time you stopped being so santamonious and bite the bullet. The bulls are done and dusted. Not because of anyone at other clubs it's down to the People who ran your club and ran it into the ground, several times. I hope you survive but never at the expense of other clubs. Start again move away from Odsal and show us and the RFL what an asset you can be the league your in.
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| The disappointing thing about being in admin and seeing a list of "potential" new or interested owners, that in reality none of the names mentioned will take on the club and the debt it has racked up.
We all know how this will pan out;
1. We will not come out of admin
2. New owner buys club for minimal amount
3. Clubs debts are cleared
4. New owner states he/she is hopeful that players will stay
5. New owner states he has had "positive" discussions with the RFL
6. Some players refuse to TUPE and leave
7. RFL make press release saying Bulls docked 12 points and impose a ridiculous financial penalty.
8. We start the season with skeleton squad adding rubbish journeymen as and when they become available.
9. We sign Karl Pryce
The only time we will ever stop this vicious cycle is when the right owner is found. I'm fearful that Green's charge against the lease will make him the highest creditor again, although i wouldn't think a charge against the lease will have a bearing on the Bulls administration package.
We have just got to let the process complete (felt like months when Gargoyle was administrator), and see if the new owner is someone of credibility.
Never trusted Green, just an opportunist, looking to get lucky with his new "Toy"
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| God, I hope the RFL don't support us too much. They exacerbated the first administration by stupidly loaning us money then taking our only asset.
They then approved Omar, who only had a few quid, then effectively fined him £1.2m which any idiot could see he didn't have, guaranteeing a 2nd administration and relegation.
Because they now own the stadium, they are between a rock and a hard place. They need a tenant, but the terms of the tenancy means that only a SL club with SL funding could survive at Odsal. But equally they are desperate to avoid being accused of favouritism.
What a bloody mess the RFL have allowed themselves to get entangled in
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| VAT Notice 701/5 deals with club memberships. I would imagine the argument is about whether the membership is single or multiple supplies. single means there can be multiple but one is the majority, in which case it's vat rate applies to all services supplied. Multiple each one stands on its own so standard zero exempt whatever. If I had been considering claiming multiple supplies I would have used a VAT consultant with PI insurance to advise me about it so I could make a claim if it went pear shaped, but equally I would anticipate them, mindful of their PI premium, saying forget it.
What was that film about a couple of yuppies (remember them?) doing up an old house? The Black Hole - no, The Money Pit!!!!
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| We are at present a full time club with contracts offered accordingly.Something may have to give if we survive and given the fact we have some very promising youngsters,I do hope at worst we could hang on to them.What a shambles that Green couldn't come clean much earlier.Wouldn't think he's got any credibility with the RL left.Really hope they don't come down heavy on us and support an early resolution should Mark Lawn buy the Club.
I'd rather be in the last chance saloon than the no chance saloon.
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| Quote Faxlore="Faxlore"
I'm glad you think your huge support is so very important to the league to these little clubs you named above. We were all surviving and making this an exciting league when you were in SL going into administration and begging all RL fans to help give money to save your 'iconic club'
This massive fan base you have haven't saved the club on the last 3 occasions. It's time you stopped being so santamonious and bite the bullet. The bulls are done and dusted. Not because of anyone at other clubs it's down to the People who ran your club and ran it into the ground, several times. I hope you survive but never at the expense of other clubs. Start again move away from Odsal and show us and the RFL what an asset you can be the league your in.Quote Faxlore
For the benefit of doubt, I was not slating any other club, the Bulls are in this mess because the person running the club made some very bad decisions and following those bad decisions were players capable of finishing in the top 4 thinking that all they had to do was turn up which led to the fact no plan B was ever considered and it was or bust.
Denial then was the order of the day, not accepting that no top 4 funding meant no full time squad but hey the owner carried on regardless and announced a host of new signings whilst not having a the means to back it up, and here we are in admin.
Money has been wasted by people now long since sailed into the sunset on 40+ player squads.
Only 1 man sees the income and expenditure and makes the decisions and that man has not been truthful for a long long time.
If anything looking at a structure like Halifax and working from there might be in the best interests of the club going forward but in truth the easiest things might just be to jack it all in before this all happens again in a few years when the RFL let the club lose with another cowboy at the helm.
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| Quote BD20="BD20"
Bulls going into League 1 would actually cost a fair few teams thousands in revenue. I doubt Batley, Fev, Halifax, etc v Barrow would be the kind of draw that the Bulls is to them, and the attendances would reflect this.'"
Who cares? If the Halifax fan posting earlier is typical, they would rather take the moral high ground than tens of thousands of pounds of extra income.
Besides, having seen Dewsbury and Halifax umpteen times last season, I quite like the idea of games against teams like Newcastle and Coventry. Then there's the away trip to Toronto of course
On the other hand, it might be trips to Dudley Hill or Siddal 
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"God, I hope the RFL don't support us too much. They exacerbated the first administration by stupidly loaning us money then taking our only asset.
They then approved Omar, who only had a few quid, then effectively fined him £1.2m which any idiot could see he didn't have, guaranteeing a 2nd administration and relegation.
Because they now own the stadium, they are between a rock and a hard place. They need a tenant, but the terms of the tenancy means that only a SL club with SL funding could survive at Odsal. But equally they are desperate to avoid being accused of favouritism.
What a bloody mess the RFL have allowed themselves to get entangled in'"
Well said.
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| Rod Studd has come up with an innovative idea of a supporter-run model for us. Such blue-sky thinking.
Mind you, Mick is wholly on-board with the idea:
@TheGameCaller
With the help of @SuppDirect and the @TheRFL we can offer the supporters of the club the choice of being in control.
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