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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"Is there no information about the actual dispute? What are these amounts in relation to?
VAT? Corp tax? NIC? I'd love to know the cases both sides are putting forward.'"
I seem to remember when this first came up there was an article on the Bulls site in which they said it was a dispute over VAT? Presumably if so, it would be over whether or not something is liable to VAT or zero rated.
Perhaps the Judge has said that if we can pay up to what we think is due (the £133k) then he'll stay proceedings while we dispute, but if we can't then there would be no point and he'll wind us up anyway? That would make sense to me but it's pure speculation.
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| Pretty simple really. Green deducts Tax and NI from players and staff wages (when he pays them) and this should be paid to HMRC in a timely manner. Unfortunately for Bulls fans it looks like this isn't happening and it seems to be a pattern of how this guy runs his businesses.
Good luck to the club in getting through this, no fault of the loyal fans who keep getting kicked.
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| Quote el red="el red"Pretty simple really. Green deducts Tax and NI from players and staff wages (when he pays them) and this should be paid to HMRC in a timely manner. Unfortunately for Bulls fans it looks like this isn't happening and it seems to be a pattern of how this guy runs his businesses.
Good luck to the club in getting through this, no fault of the loyal fans who keep getting kicked.'"
That is a big assumption presented as a " simple" fact.
PAYE tax and NI are rarely (if ever) taxes which are disputed. The tax and NI due is based on the wages/ income paid. And that amount is a matter of record between the employer and HMRC. That information would have been disclosed to the court/ Judge.
It seems clear that there is a dispute. So to me it is far more likely that VAT is the tax in question.
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| Quote woolly07="woolly07"Come on FA. You really do like to put people down at every opportunity.
It is possible to explain things without appearing all high and mighty.
That last line is what I mean. Was that needed. I expect that from teenagers not a wise, older person.
You write very good points but there is no need to pick apart every point to get one over someone.'"
Not been on here for a while and come along for a look.
Guess what?
Bradford are in financial trouble and FA is condescending someone.
Groundhog day.
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| How can someone get the figures so wrong. Where do we find the money from now?
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| Best case scenario - £30k is about 110 season tickets...
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| I think Bullinenemyland has summed the why's and wherefores of this case in plenty of posts before.
This is about VAT from what I know and a dispute over what is due. Not NI. If it was that they'd have no sympathy from me.
Obvs we've come to some sort of arrangement pending further agreement in the future. Storm in a teacup.
What happened today in the other winding up orders that being read for Salford, Fev, Sheffield and Co?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Not been on here for a while and come along for a look.
Guess what?
Bradford are in financial trouble and FA is condescending someone.
Groundhog day.'"
If you'd paid more attention in class, you'd know that it isn't possible to "condescend" someone 
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"I think Bullinenemyland has summed the why's and wherefores of this case in plenty of posts before.
This is about VAT from what I know and a dispute over what is due. Not NI. If it was that they'd have no sympathy from me.
Obvs we've come to some sort of arrangement pending further agreement in the future. Storm in a teacup.
What happened today in the other winding up orders that being read for Salford, Fev, Sheffield and Co?'"
Can't find anything about the other WUPs, although checking The Gazette, the last recorded WUP against Fev was dismissed in September.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"If you'd paid more attention in class, you'd know that it isn't possible to "condescend" someone
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But is it possible to intransitive someone?
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| Quote Mr Dog="Mr Dog"Can't find anything about the other WUPs, although checking The Gazette, the last recorded WUP against Fev was dismissed in September.'"
See below.
Quote Mr Dog="Duckman"[urlhttps://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/court-lists/list-companies-winding-up[/url
The court seems quite busy today, 201 companies to get through. As well as ourselves, scanning down the Companies Court Winding Up List, it seems its an RFL day out; we're up early doors and then we have some other RFL clubs, maybe its a job lot type of thing?
31. CR-2016-003939 BRADFORD BULLS NORTHERN LIMITED
108. CR-2016-005429 Salford City Reds Limited
131. CR-2016-005496 OLDHAM RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB (1997) LIMITED
172. CR-2016-005576 FEATHERSTONE ROVERS RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
177. CR-2016-005582 SHEFFIELD EAGLES 2000 LIMITED
#everyminutematters....in court 17.'"
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