I agree it doesn't change much, though Halifax winning margin has helped us a bit. It could come down to points difference for 4th or 5th which was always likely. I don't really get why Lowes was so dismissive about point difference in the post match interview last week. Even when it's clear we are going to lose, every point matters. Our heads seem to drop a little too easy.

Fax have done us a favour but we still need to perform in two league matches.

Even if we get to million pound game could you see us doing a job on Wakefield away.

I don't want to sound too dismissive I just don't think we have what it takes...

I hope I am proven wrong more than anyone.

It's not set in stone we'll be away to wakefield. Win both our games and wakes losing one would see us at odsal. Would fancy us in that one provided we get a decent ref tbh.

Either way round we need to perform in all the remaining "winable " matches...

Fielding a scrum half and stand off would be a good start.

Yes. Wakey were shocking by all accounts yesterday and looking at twitter, chairman, players arguing with fans is never a good situation.

IF (a BIG if) we did get Wakey in the million pound game, and we had all out players fit (An even bigger IF) i can't see us being taken by surprise with a Wakefield blitz. It would be a much closer game and we have more than enough to beat them.

But this is Bradford and i can see Gaskell being out for the season, Mullaney pulling another hamstring, Clough or Sidlow getting injured leaving us with 3 available props and us losing to Leigh and Fax

Rumours that two star Wakey players been arrested for drink driving (see Wakey board)

AGain won't do out chances any harm

Kevin Locke and Tim Smith apparently. Not been a good weekend for Wakefield.

The problem remains getting the players into the right mindset at kickoff.

It was the case that our key game was Wakey away, and we never turned up. We blew it. They were and are there for the taking, but we instead were garbage and were lucky to get only the thrashing we did.

If we had beaten Wakey then just have a look what the table would look like now. I knew that result would come back to haunt us.

Anyway, as it stands, talk of winning the big game is academic if we aren't consistent or committed enough to do the busines on both Leigh and Halifax. Leigh have been a good team for a couple of years, Halifax not so hot though they are finishing the season strong, but any team with genuine belief that we have the makings of a SL side must beat other Championship sides while we are at their level. If we get beat by either Leigh or Halifax then we genuinely do not deserve promotion. They are not easy games, but they are games we simply can't lose if we think we are good enough to go up.

Agreed. We've won 1/4 of the games against SL clubs and are currently 1/1 against Championship clubs. With 2 championship clubs to come - aiming for 4/7 Middle 8's record. Which I would have taken at the beginning of the season....

It's been amazing really. We do our level best to kill [i:sme4zjobourselves[/i.

anyway, onwards and upwards, next stop Leigh!

Some talk of Lauaki getting 8 games, which is nuts, what did he do? He pushed the guy in the face, that's it, not good and not clever, but he didn't gouge and he certainly didn't make any movement across the face despite what the red signalled. One of their players did almost the same thing yet for some reason nobody has said a word. Weird. It isn't worth more than a 1 match ban.

If he gets more I think it's a favour to us as the cameos he puts in are too short, and he's a penalty machine at the moment.