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| If Andy Farrell was such a Rugby Yawnion failure, how come he played for England? What does that say about all the other English players who didn't?
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| Quote dddooommm="dddooommm"He'll be back in RL one day. I wonder if Bradford still hold his Super League registration?'"
I'll be surprised if he play in SL again, Sydney is his home. Maybe he may have a shot to win an SL ring/CC medal in the twilight of his career.
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| Genuine talent can play well in both codes look at Izzy Folau, Sonny Bill Williams, Jason Robinson, injuries can be the problem if the player is around the 30 year mark and that has been a problem for cross coding. Andy Farrell a prime example, played his last season for the Pies injured most of it, then spent his Union career plagued by ongoing injuries, but Union recognise the intellect he had and that's why he is in their Coaching set up.
Big Les carried on being injury prone when he went to Union and Shonny has also suffered for it as well.
Sam has the attributes to make a great success of his Union career so good luck to him.
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| Quote Lizzo="Lizzo"If Andy Farrell was such a Rugby Yawnion failure, how come he played for England? What does that say about all the other English players who didn't?'"
Exactly right, but it's actually a huge compliment to RL. What it is, is that the Onions genuinely expect any convert to be the best Union player on the planet and that's why they get all "glass half empty" when he "only" makes the national team and gets 8 caps.
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| If they use him correctly he'll be a hit. What Union often fails at with League converts is not using their skill set properly and adapting the team game to take advantage of it. You need Sam at inside centre running onto the ball in plenty of space but you can bet the passes will be too flat and he'll get hammered in the ruck.
He'll also have to adapt quickly because they'll want him in the England team for the World Cup next year rather than waiting 'til 2019.
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| While he will be at Bath to start in union - coached by Mike Ford and playing outside Kyle Eastmond so plenty of RL links.
But going back to the comments on the great divide above, yes Red Hall have not given a lead to the game in the UK but it is the lack of the high profile international matches in RL that make a huge difference to it's profile and marketability.
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| While Yawnion are lauding Sam as the best thing since sliced bread they will be some in the establishment praying hes a failure as if to prove RL is a second class sport compared to kick and clap. RL is second class to Yawnion but only in the way it is governed from Red Hall. The players are fitter and far more skilfull than their counterparts.
On another note during the 60`s as a schoolboy our PE teacher would not let us play for the school at RU because some of us had attended a youth training day at the re-formed Northern!!
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| Is it just me, or are there others who actually don't really care whether he's a success in the other code or not?
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| Is it just me who thinks it's just you?
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| I want him to be a success just to prove that League produces the better athlete.
It's no surprise that Union poach players from RL, especially for a World cup year, it just goes to show how intelligent the league players are to adapt so quickly.
There haven't been too many success stories of players coming from Union in RL. A recent success could be Gareth Thomas, on the flip side of that Powell at Wigan was average, and he was meant to be one of the best players in the Wales Union side.
Once Sam leaves Union, I just want him to come out and say his experience of Union was Gash! Something I'm sure Kyle Eastmond will do once his contract expires.
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| Quote daveyz999="daveyz999"I want him to be a success just to prove that League produces the better athlete.
It's no surprise that Union poach players from RL, especially for a World cup year, it just goes to show how intelligent the league players are to adapt so quickly.
There haven't been too many success stories of players coming from Union in RL. A recent success could be Gareth Thomas, on the flip side of that Powell at Wigan was average, and he was meant to be one of the best players in the Wales Union side.
Once Sam leaves Union, I just want him to come out and say his experience of Union was Gash! Something I'm sure Kyle Eastmond will do once his contract expires.'"
They are two very different games though, and being a success in one and not the other 'proves' very little, imo. I don't blame him for doing it, the life of a professional sportsman is quite short in terms of a lifetime and a career can be ended at any time by injury . The money swilling about over there is well out of our RL planet too, so it's probably a 'no-brainer' for him and his family.
It's just I'm a rugby league fan and I'm not really interested in how he goes on.
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