Quote: Dannyboywt "What I don't get is why Adeybull seems to have the view everyone on here is answerable to him? You are all just fans and the likelyhood of ever getting the full picture is virtually zero. The only people that will have anywhere near the full facts and the current owners and the independant board.
Adey have you contacted the current owner for discussions as I am sure together you could clear up some grey areas to your satisfaction. Repeatedly asking the same question to fans on a forum will not give you answers and the view that if they can't be answered byt fans means something is fishy doesn't add up.
Saying if it should be 4 or 6 isn't relivant the case was for all or nothing, if they has said they had paid of some of the creditors or appealed it should have been 4 not 6 I would have understood this being discussed.
Still points to be had this year and if that isn't acheivable get your youngsters signed up an start looking at Leighs business model. Stop wasting energy on chasing shadows.'"
1 - What you say in the first paragraph is not my view, is not a view I have ever put forward, and (other than in the minds of any whom it suits to think or suggest that) is not a view supported by any evidence.
2 - The questions are quite clearly not aimed directly at the current owner (although his answers would be enlightening), or fans on here. They are quite clearly aimed at the key protaganists t in this debacle - the RFL, Moore & Co and to an extent Green, as well as the likes of Khan and Whitcu*t. I posted the same questions in several other places. Have a read of
rlthis threadrl for a rather wider discussion of the questions. I seem to have accumulated 30 likes so far to my original post, which is quite a lot for that place, so I must be doing something right?
3 - The questions, as you will see from the extra paragraph in that and other places, are a clear invitation to journalists and others who are far better placed to get to the bottom of things, to see if THEY can get some answers. And the T&A journalist rang me up earlier precisely in response to that post. In a brief discussion, we each ascertained that we did not have many of the definitive answers. I had nothing new I could tell him, and vice versa.
4 - I already know some of the answers some of the protaganists would (or did) give, since they have told me. But, given there are always two sides to any argument, I would want to hear the other side. And compare the answers, and any disagreements, and THEN try and form a view. It seems to me that many people have already formed a view, without having heard the responses from both sides. I say again, the only people who are likely to be able to get to the bottom of what really happened - if anyone is - will be the likes of journalists. And there must be wider stories in all this, not least the roles of the various politicians, and of one in particular.
5 - the reason for posing the questions is simple: I do not believe we have anything like the whole explanation for what has happened. Any more than we did over Iconicgate (that was quite good, the guy who coined that! I might steal it...), the first administration, the sale to OKB, and what happened under OK's tenure. Some folk may be content to let it lie, and just accept the present disaster for what it is. Some other folk would prefer to know how the hell we got to this disaster, and what lessons might be learned. And who really are the guilty men. I am one of those, and I can see I am not totally alone, even if doubtless in a minority. THAT is why I posted what I did. To provoke some thought; maybe some consideration that things may not be quite as clear-cut as some folk - many folk outside of the Bulls fanbase - might believe or want to believe; and, just maybe, some more probing questions to get some better explanations.
If anyone has a problem with any of that, just put me on ignore and don't read what I say. Simple.
