What do you make of rule 4.7 FA ?
Would you care/dare to take us through that again.

Sometimes I have trouble seeing wood for trees.

If you were the tree FA I think the wood would probably eat you.

Why don't you just come on out and scream it.

ITS JUST NOT FAIR AND AINT LEGAL.
4.7 Rule.

I can do what the fek we want.
If we don't like what you done.

GOT IT ?

Still aint fekking fair though is it.
On a positive note....who needs points back.
We only need the cup with money (does the cup give much? Money?)
A win or two will soon have us back from the dead.
3rd bottom is all that matters.
If it was right to give Ok 6 for Hoods indiscretions I'm sure 6 will stay in this case.
It does not matter whose fault you think it is.
Its what those who have seen and been made aware of EVERYTHING that matter.
And news of OK"s personal guarantee for everything at sept 2012 tells me how seriously the RFL were telling him.

The same message went forth to Wakefield last summer.
OK lied

Are you drunk?

No don't drink FA ,

Stand away from the trees Fa.
There is no legal case you cannot even rely on precedent a pretty fundamental tool of justice.

If its happened before we do it like this does not wash.

They can make the cap fit and are not bound by any precedents.

Think I said it once before.
These things are usually sorted over a cup of tea.
Whats happening now independent alleged panel or bent is an exercise of total going through the motions.

But you know..you put a strong case.

But you will need to up your greggs meat and vegggie pasty ( Cornish to me and you when the Cornish ar"nt looking)intake by at least an oven full to compete

And.....

You can take a horse to water,

But a pencil must be lead.

Do you read what you post?

Because honestly, it's just f**kin gibberish.

I've kept up with this thread from the beginning

, and contributed a few times.

Couple of points.
The sanctions which have been applied to us over the last 2 years are based on rfl rules. Which have been poorly written and leave holes, which are open to interpretation. Solly & Rimmer (at times) give the impression of making it up as they go along - or listening to who/what is applying the best pressure at the time. Which leaves things very difficult when trying to apply hindsight to see if there is any logic in this.

The other problem is to do with OK's appointment. The RFL knew that he wasn't a multimillionaire, knew he couldn't bankroll the club from his own pockets, knew that the administrator hadn't released any players, except for kopczak so we were pretty close to the salary cap. They also knew the length of contracts that players had and that the higher earners mostly had at least another year to go so options reducing wages (by far the main expense) would be limited. They also had halved his central monies allocation.

It has been suggested that the RFL have been concerned about Leagues perception at government level? Also they've alsways said that they're concerned about players welfare/wages and competition integrity.


What did they think would happen when they confirmed his appointment? How did they see the Bulls managing without central funding and with limited ability to reduce the wage bill in that first year? What pressure did (and are) the players union apply re welfare?

Was this 2nd car crash inevitable? Was that planned? or was it just incompetence (naiveity) from all concerned?

And yet the Club continued to sign additional expensive players

Really? Released about 8 people who had played in the first team squad.
They signed Foster & Sidlow....
And this was the start of loaning players, which we hadn't really done much of before. So Blythe & Ben Evans on loan from Warrington.

So we reduced our first team squad by 6 permanent players, but got 2 on loan.

That seems to be about as much that could be done in reducing the squad and wage bill within the constraints of contracts which have to be honoured, and player welfare.

We may have signed players but the squad was trimmed downwards in successive years. No arguing with the figures.

Players leaving since 2012 - 28.
Players joining since 2012 - 18.

Players in 2012 – Sammut, Purtell, Lulia, Gale, Pryce, Kear, Manoakafoa, Joseph (8)
Players out end of 2012 - Burgess, Hargreaves, Elima, Jeffries, Sibbit, Joseph, Kopczak, Sykes, Ainscough, Crookes, Briggs, McAvoy, Windley, Southernwood, Pryce, Ball. (16)
Players in 2013 - Foster, Blythe, Sidlow. (3)
Players out end of 2013 - Langley, L’Estrange, Lulia, Whitehead, Murphy, Naughton, Bateman, Platt (8)
Players in 2014 - Carvell, Winterstein, Henry, Gaskell, Ferguson, George, Fakir (7)
Players out 2014 (so far) - Carvell, Scruton, Sammut, Winterstein (4)

All those apart from Fakir were actually signed up in 2013 before the latest Administration.

All those were also signed up by OK before he stepped down. Subsequent owners have been left with trying to reduce wage bill Ok left them with, hence departures of carvell, winterstein, dammit and scruton. Fakir has been added once we were out of admin with a new owner in place injecting money.