I think if we want to avoid the drop we also need wins from the big boys (Leeds, Wigan, Warrington, St Helens, Huddersfield) it's no good us relying on getting wins over Wakefield and London to stay up, Salford I think was a winnable game for us on Friday considering their recent form but at this at moment in time I can't see it happening.

Remembering Orford, what would a top class play maker be worth to us right now. If a player came available for 6 months would we pay to get him like London did last year with the state of origin half back. We probably can't afford a big short term signing but also can't afford not to make some signings / loans. Catch 22 I am afraid.

Even if a top class play maker was available, and we could afford him - doesn't guarantee he would slot into the rest of the team. If we had the cash to splash you would want someone who could help us win sufficient games to get above 10 points to give us even an outside chance. I think we should finish above London, the question is can we catch Wakey?

Even if he didn't slot in straight away would e do any worse than Luke Gale?

Shhh you can't say a bad word about him.

I'd forgotten about Awful, to be honest. I think as TT said, he actually played quite well whilst he was here [in the top 4 IIRC, when he went home]and the club was more than fair in allowing him to go home to recuperate.

Oh, what might have been - I guess that was a decision they would like to have re-visited. Ultimately it killed not only that season but also the next as we couldn't recruit with him hanging on to his contract whilst playing around trying to get an Aussie deal.