Thought your forwards were poor for the first 40 mins. We made easy yards and are pack is not the biggest.

But credit to the bulls in the second half. Can't remember them making to many errors and could easily of come home with the 2pts.

Do you have many props out atm?

We don't have many props!!!

Carvell and Scruton : (

All in all, not that bad a result over the piece. Widnes have been going well this season and it shows that we can be competitive against the mid-lower sides.

We are the only side in the league that can still strengthen in all honesty. Two or three new quality faces and we have a fighting chance.

We are doomed,let's all be realistic

"Mid-lower sides" is a bit disrespectful. We're 4th with a game in hand for Pete's sake.

And????

You are below Leeds Saints Wigan Wire Huddersfield and the two Hull clubs at least in terms of expectation.

As I said, you a doing well but you are still currently punching above your weight.

Widnes are a mid-lower SL club whether you want to deny it or not. It ain't the 80's anymore. Joe Lydon buggered off ages ago.

Mystic they may be mid-lower but they beat us!

Not the point being argued though is it?

Two things. Thought first widnes try ball was dropped over the line, think ref thought so too linesman gave it. Secondlly would like to see disallowed sam wood no try on tv. Minorman was directly in front of it and thinks it was a try.

In terms of whose expectation? Yours? We've been through our bad times and wilderness years and believe me, they ain't pleasant. I sincerely hope that you stay up this season (already stated that earlier), but if not, you could be in for a lot of heartache.