With all the sh=ite coming out on the forum at the moment can this be renamed Touching Cloth

You make statements that suggest you have seen the Bulls business plan submitted to the RFL. Have you or you just making assumptions to suit your POV?

I haven't seen it, but I have seen the statements from the RFL, which state that the new BoD's plan was flawed, that no payments to creditors or HMRC were to be made and that they had no confidence in the bid going forward (which I was amazed at, given they had picked BB2014 as the suceesful bid over Mr Lamb!!).

You are out of order calling me a liar, for using information in the public domain to form my opinion of the situation.

I can see why you feel the term "begging bowl" is emotive - fine, but to one minute say "we are solvent and don't need to sell players, they are ringfenced", to then be outed as asking for a 500k advance (which if given would leave you a hole further down the line), undermines the credibility of BB2014 totally.

It seems clear that BB2014 don't have the capital to buy and run the Bulls.

Have you actually seen the business plan?

Clearly you are not an adult as you suggest that it is normal for any household not to have a mortgage, credit cards, overdraft or hire purchase.

If you run a poll I'll put it forward after the result.
If you win of course

I have never stated that I have seen the business plan. Well, plans, there have been more than one.

You stated an untruth when you said the Bulls were "getting out the begging bowl". It simply has not happened. And seemingly was misleading too. It's not that that's "emotive", it's just not the truth. If you didn't mean to say the Bulls were begging ie for gifts, then you could say so and apologise, instead of crying about being called on it.

You have forgotten that it was not you, but the RFL and the administrator, who had to decide whether or not BB2014 had credibility and whether they had the funds to buy and run Bradford Bulls. The RFL and administrator plainly felt that they did, otherwise their bid (described in terms as "the strongest offer") was accepted. Therefore to reasonable people, it can't be "clear" at all. And many have now asked, including respected journalists, if the Bulls bid/plan really was that bad, why did the RFL until very recently seem to be steering and encouraging the new owners into place? Odd, that.

I also note you have declined to answer either of the 2 questions I posed for you.

Of course most households and businesses in this country fund themselves through borrowing of one sort or another, but these are dangerous tools to use if you don't have reasonable certainty you can meet the repayments. As they like to say in business schools "hope is not a strategy"

Haha. Now it's clear, you have no idea and are just wearing RAB coloured specs!

Despite you calling me and the RFL liars, you are right in stating it is not for me to decide the credibility of BB2014, but the RFL.

The RFL statement is clear in slating the BB2014 bid - it was full of holes.

And I am not crying, far from it, unlike Moore when he spat his dummy.

The most unequivocal and clear, factual information in all this has come from the RFL statement. It damns BB2014 and leaves no doubt about their credibility. None whatsoever.

The point is that the information is NOT in the public domain. The information is the business plan and nobody on this forum has probably seen it. What is in the public domain is a statement from the RFL saying the plan was flawed and one from MM saying the opposite. What I don't understand is that the RFL board brought in a fabulous sponsorship sponsorship deal with Eddie Stobart that simply resulted in several lorries being painted. They then held a world cup that they couldn't get any sponsorship deal at all. And the brought in a two division competition that turns into three and then god knows what happens. I know which statement I believe.

It's quite staggering how the RFL have gone from commercially incompetent and not fit to run the sport to the best judge of a business plan and the source of infallible truths in a week. Did they hire someone new

So t'Bulls need to cut their cloth for a happy ending?

Got it.

Someone call Barbara [uTaylor[/u-[uBradford[/u.

Ahh, I'm hilarious.

I asked you a question couple of days ago and I'm still waiting for your answer.How come you have posted more times on here in last 48 hours than any of us Bulls fans have.I think we all know the answer don't we