Gates were on the slide from 2004 onwards. But maybe those folk had preemptive knowledge of the horror McNamara was to inflict on the club.

Yeah but we didn't have any money. I think this has been mentioned before.

Sometimes teams get a role on and become unstoppable. The defeat by Wigan in the play offs, the win at Halifax in 97 come to mind.

But the last 20 mins yesterday were grim. The contrast in enthusiasm, urgency and self belief from the first 20mins was scary. Once Widnes had taken a 4 point lead we never for a single second looked like mounting a response. It really did look like the team had completely lost hope of winning the game.

That was not the point I was making. Again, as you well know.

Is that not during the season then?

What is wrong with the organisation then?

Anyone think Cummins has lost the dressing room? We look like a ragbag of a team, unsettled and lacking direction.

We really needed play off money and extra income from an extended cup run, neither of which have been delivered.

Scratchy head time for Omar and Gerry I think.

The team looks really low on confidence to me and I think that's down to many reasons. From the top down everyone's responsible. Although there are valid reasons why we're not doing as well this season there are certainly things we could be doing better.

I don't think wholesale changes to the coaching staff or playing staff will make much difference or even be possible in the current climate. I think we need to manage expectations a little bit too but at the same time not let that be an excuse for being as disappointing as we were in the last 30mins yesterday.

Tbf I don't recall the club putting it forward as an excuse. It is a fact, and a bloody great massive fact. But just a fact.


Agreed, or well, the basics, we seem to have spells where as a team we forget the basics. Like yesterday, first half, we did loads of great basics, and some very good rugby, but it was al for nothing, and won't be remembered by anyone, as it was all squandered.


Agreed.

In fairness I was not referring to the club using it as an excuse. I was referring to plenty of people on here.

The constant carping and complaining about the coach and the player’s performance must be having a negative effect on them.
It’s not helping to have every decision questioned, nitpicked at, then come up with the answer - we need more “imported” “tent” players.
I find it disheartening that “fans” of the Bulls on this website are not more supportive of the team.
We all need to pull together, generate a more positive attitude.
Kicking somebody when they are down does not help them get up.