Oh yes the fabled laws of momentum, must have forgotten about those, interesting then that some of our smaller players like Donaldson were still making tackles when our bigger players were getting brushed off, or of course there's the example of any number of smaller hookers I could mention who routinely make more tackles than props.

What is naive is to make an analogy with something you evidently know nothing about i.e. classical mechanics, whilst disregarding the empirical evidence that comes from using your eyes and watching the game you're meant to be commenting about.

Honestly, I'd almost forgotten why I'd given up posting on here, but thankfully you've popped up to remind me. Dealing with the occasional idiot is indeed exhausting. Thanks.

To make the playoffs we need to start being a bit more consistent though. At this point we've still had more good games than poor, but if we don't start improving this is going to change and we are going to plummet out of the top 8.

I agree 7th is a great place for us to be at this stage, but on current form I wouldn't back us to stay there. It's going to be hard work over the coming weeks, and I think we will see who is up to the task.

Oh, and have to agree with Tigs on whitehead at the moment. He's gone backwards this season and he's not doing much lately other than missing tackles.

You're not being negative. It's a fair analysis of a squad that is four to five players and two years away from the sides you mention. That is still significantly better than we were for the last two years of SM and the first year of MP.

On the tackling issue, two of the three you mention with regards to missed tackles are in the Bulls top 3 tacklers and in the top 30 in SL. One of them Addy has played in the halves. The problem is they're defending TOO much.

Well I tried to analyse it fairly. I'd say 4 or 5 players and two to three years short of those teams too. If we had kept Wardle it would be about 3-4. And yes I see your point but having 2 players miss 51 tackles EACH and another at 49 is disgusting tbh. The majority of those missed tackles there is barely an attempt either.

As I said on another thread, basics not being done properly.

Given that we played this game with only one bona fide prop the result was unfortunately very predictable.

Hudders reminded me of a Bulls side of old. Lots of big lads running over the top of smaller lads. Fact is with the likes of Sidlow and Manoakafoa out we were bound to struggle. When we were on attack we rarely got the kind of momentum needed to give space to our backs, that led to panic passing and mistakes.

Our backrow is seriously missing Elima and Langley. Whitehead, Walker and Olbison are out of form and are struggling in defence. Only a couple of weeks ago Cummins said there were players struggling for form but the squad isn't big enough to drop them. That's why they keep getting picked.

I thought there was a lot of effort out there but fatigue took its toll on us. We didn't have the tools up front to apply pressure so we made more errors. Being on the back foot led to daft penalties being given away so we lost the energy battle.

On the positive side I though Elliot Kear had a great game. We're not likely to come up against a forward pack like that again versus HKR either.

The sooner Batemen is back the better as the backrow needs stiffening up. Evans and Fairbank are some way short of SL standard as is Olbison at the moment. Foster didn't look anywhere near match fit and it stood out a mile. That said his last ditch attempted tackles were laughable. I could do as well as that myself!

Anyway, I just hope we get some bodies back soon. It's been a very tough 5 weeks and we've played all the top teams lately (bar Salford). We are obviously some years off competing for honours but at least we're in the main beating all the teams we need to beat.