FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Administration - same rules for all?
16 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star12No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Jun 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Salford have entered a CVA which is an alternative to administration.

They should receive a points reduction and loss of sky money in my opinion (the precedent set against us - which I disagree with but believe should be kept consistent), but it seems the rfl are contempt with sweeping this issue under the rug. From a cynical outsiders view, I believe that they are contempt with the lack of publicity on the subject causing a problem to the games overall image (ala bulls) because the loud mouth of koukash has done such a good job of deflecting it.

The cited reason as to why we got such a harsh points deduction and a subsequent loss of sky income was because our creditors wouldn't be paid back in full. A cva entails an agreement with creditors by which they are paid back over time - not straight away. Which would surely differ from the original credit terms. I.e credit would have been issued on the proviso that it would be paid in full in the next months payment run... Not at £10 a month (for example).

This is another example of the rfl making things up as they go along. Their embarrassment is self evident (world cup or super league sponsor anyone?), so why should we expect anything less? Maybe we don't... But the feeling of injustice hurts all the same

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


I'm not sure a CVA is all that much better than Admin for the the people owed money.

"Give us your agreement and we'll give you 15% of what you're owed, or we'll go into admin and you might get sod all", is clearly slightly better than getting nothing after the administrator has taken his 'expenses', but it isn't that much better that it should totally avoid the loss of points and sky money.

mat
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9554
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



think point is that if figures being discussed for salfords mooted CVA are correct, they are plaaning to pay creditors 100% of moneys owed, but over several years (and presumably without any interest added).

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1894No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2017Nov 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Bulliac "I'm not sure a CVA is all that much better than Admin for the the people owed money.'"

The CVA has been agreed by the creditors - at least the 75% majority by worth - and obviously think that whatever money they will be repaid is better than Admin where they might get zilch.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: bobsmyuncle "The CVA has been agreed by the creditors - at least the 75% majority by worth - and obviously think that whatever money they will be repaid is better than Admin where they might get zilch.'"

Agreed. Though I think that's pretty much what I said?

Admittedly with maybe a bit more accent on the relative merits. The 75% are likely to be the banks, HMIT, VAT and the like - I'd guess the other 25% get pretty much the same either way..somewhere around zippo.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Bulliac "Agreed. Though I think that's pretty much what I said?

Admittedly with maybe a bit more accent on the relative merits. The 75% are likely to be the banks, HMIT, VAT and the like - I'd guess the other 25% get pretty much the same either way..somewhere around zippo.'"



No, the 75% refers to the percentage of creditors (by value) that is needed to approve the CVA.

If approved, all creditors get the same percentage. (Though in Salford's case the position is said to be 100% just paid over a long period)

16 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
16 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.8681640625:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5760
9m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
8s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4047
13s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
15s
Film game
karetaker
5760
17s
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
18s
Salford
rubber ducki
55
19s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
20s
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
22s
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
24s
2025 Recruitment
Bull Mania
211
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,667 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5760
9m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
8s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4047
13s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
15s
Film game
karetaker
5760
17s
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
18s
Salford
rubber ducki
55
19s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
20s
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
22s
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
24s
2025 Recruitment
Bull Mania
211
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!