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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"IF he gave a sincere and contrite apology to the fans, the rest of the team, the coaching staff and the new owners, then I'd take him back. Trouble is, I don't think that's gonna happen'"
It's not going to happen because he wanted to go and doesn't want to return. He didn't play all that often last season and everything was fine so I would say if there's any wrong doing and there is a chance of making something out of it - make as much money out of it as possible - the club needs the money not the player.
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| Quote Bullsfab!="Bullsfab!"I see on telegraph and argus
That Bateman has apparently signed for hull FC
Any truth in this??? Or just rumour? It doesn't look like bulls are shouting from the rooftops about signings.
What with koppy Sykes and potentially Bateman leaving bulls along with crookes
It does appear that the rats are escaping from the sinking ship!'"
Is this the Bateman that has signed a 3 year deal with the Bulls, or some other Bateman?
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| Quote fido="fido"It's not going to happen because he wanted to go and doesn't want to return. He didn't play all that often last season and everything was fine so I would say if there's any wrong doing and there is a chance of making something out of it - make as much money out of it as possible - the club needs the money not the player.'"
To be utterly fair, I don't think he's actually done anything that a court could find 'wrong'. Taking a different view from your mates isn't actionable and (AFAIK) he wasn't legally obliged to accept OK Bulls as his new employer if he didn't want to. He's just found a legal way out of a contract which he clearly didn't want to be in, so from that, I reckon you're dead right and he's unlikely to be coming back.
That said, [iIf[/i he were to decide that maybe he'd been a bit hasty etc etc, and there would be no problems in the dressing room over it, I'd have him back. He was (when fit) in good form and probably wasn't on megabucks and I'd guess it would cost more to replace him with a non-homegrown player. All in all though, I can't really see it happening and expect he'll sign elsewhere before too long.
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| I have no problem with what he has done more the way he did it. That said I think his position in the Bulls show just how far we have fallen. When Koppy can be our player of the year then it shows really how bad we are. He would not compare too well against any of the awesome foursome.
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| Whilst I am not impressed with craig's recent conduct he has been over past three years one of our most consistent performers and won over some of his knockers. People who keep going back to old players are in a daydream and not understanding of the past and the present. I think comparing anyone to the awesome foursome is daft and did vagana and fielden not make our team of the century? point that they may have been the best we have ever had all at once and something that is unlikely to happen again. Even Fielden over past four years does not compare to when he himself was part of the awesome foursome....
We have had same with wingers if they are not massive,direct, quick and scoring 30+ tries like Les they are not worth the shirt - get with times and know you enjoyed the past and it was a privelege.
If I am honest looking around the league which props are better than kopczak ? hill,carvell, peacock, o'meley, puletua ? If there is as rumoured even interest from the likes of Leeds, giants, wigan and saints then why are we so quick to knock him? just bitter
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| Quote domthebull="domthebull"Whilst I am not impressed with craig's recent conduct he has been over past three years one of our most consistent performers and won over some of his knockers. People who keep going back to old players are in a daydream and not understanding of the past and the present. I think comparing anyone to the awesome foursome is daft and did vagana and fielden not make our team of the century? point that they may have been the best we have ever had all at once and something that is unlikely to happen again. Even Fielden over past four years does not compare to when he himself was part of the awesome foursome....
We have had same with wingers if they are not massive,direct, quick and scoring 30+ tries like Les they are not worth the shirt - get with times and know you enjoyed the past and it was a privelege.
If I am honest looking around the league which props are better than kopczak ? hill,carvell, peacock, o'meley, puletua ? If there is as rumoured even interest from the likes of Leeds, giants, wigan and saints then why are we so quick to knock him? just bitter'"

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| Quote domthebull="domthebull"Whilst I am not impressed with craig's recent conduct he has been over past three years one of our most consistent performers and won over some of his knockers. People who keep going back to old players are in a daydream and not understanding of the past and the present. I think comparing anyone to the awesome foursome is daft and did vagana and fielden not make our team of the century? point that they may have been the best we have ever had all at once and something that is unlikely to happen again. Even Fielden over past four years does not compare to when he himself was part of the awesome foursome....
We have had same with wingers if they are not massive,direct, quick and scoring 30+ tries like Les they are not worth the shirt - get with times and know you enjoyed the past and it was a privelege.
If I am honest looking around the league which props are better than kopczak ? hill,carvell, peacock, o'meley, puletua ? If there is as rumoured even interest from the likes of Leeds, giants, wigan and saints then why are we so quick to knock him? just bitter'"
You're quite right. I apologize unreservedly. All our players are the best in the league in every position.Potter should have been sacked. We should have finished top of the league even with a 6 point deduction. Feel better now????
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"To be utterly fair, I don't think he's actually done anything that a court could find 'wrong'. Taking a different view from your mates isn't actionable and (AFAIK) he wasn't legally obliged to accept OK Bulls as his new employer if he didn't want to. He's just found a legal way out of a contract which he clearly didn't want to be in, so from that, I reckon you're dead right and he's unlikely to be coming back.
That said, [iIf[/i he were to decide that maybe he'd been a bit hasty etc etc, and there would be no problems in the dressing room over it, I'd have him back. He was (when fit) in good form and probably wasn't on megabucks and I'd guess it would cost more to replace him with a non-homegrown player. All in all though, I can't really see it happening and expect he'll sign elsewhere before too long.'"
But his reasoning for why he should be allowed out of his contract is that he's in a similar position to the players at Rangers. Which is simply not the case. They argued that their contract being moved to the newco would be detrimental to them and their careers. That was agreed by the courts as they would be expect to take a paycut, have no European football AND be playing in the bottom tier of Scottish football. Given the Bulls are staying in SL then and being allowed to compete in the CC, which is the only other competition the club is eligible for, Kopout's argument becomes more than a little shakey. So, unless OK Bulls have said something along the lines of "You're only going to be getting half your salary under the newco" there's no real comparison between his situation and that of the players who left Rangers.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"But his reasoning for why he should be allowed out of his contract is that he's in a similar position to the players at Rangers. Which is simply not the case. They argued that their contract being moved to the newco would be detrimental to them and their careers. That was agreed by the courts as they would be expect to take a paycut, have no European football AND be playing in the bottom tier of Scottish football. Given the Bulls are staying in SL then and being allowed to compete in the CC, which is the only other competition the club is eligible for, Kopout's argument becomes more than a little shakey. So, unless OK Bulls have said something along the lines of "You're only going to be getting half your salary under the newco" there's no real comparison between his situation and that of the players who left Rangers.'"
That's your take on it my friend. All the players had the same option under Tupe but as the other player's contracts were more lucrative and the offers they were given from other clubs were substantially less they were too afraid to resign. He would have left anyway the season after found it unfair to be on half the wage of platy,nas,Sykes,scruton. Move on and don't be so bitter if bulls are such a big club then kopczak is easy to replace.
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| Quote bulls@@t="bulls@@t"That's your take on it my friend. All the players had the same option under Tupe but as the other player's contracts were more lucrative and the offers they were given from other clubs were substantially less they were too afraid to resign. ...'"
Fook me, another idiot who claims personal knowledge of all the players' contracts, offers and even personal fears. Don't you get that you just make yourself look infantile, you muppet?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Fook me, another idiot who claims personal knowledge of all the players' contracts, offers and even personal fears. Don't you get that you just make yourself look infantile, you muppet?'"
I do you clown full facts and figures Kopczak to Huddersfield fact. When you want some facts just ask.
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