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| Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Last Monday or Tuesday there were 2 posts on the T&A forum re Bulls players fighting in Bradford, one arrested and some players not turning up for training the day after. The posts were quickly removed, were they a wind up or has anybody heard anything? If true it could be related to the Koppy story.'"
Sounds like a wind up to me.
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| Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
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Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them. 
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| Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
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I would imagine that the cheerleaders, and the caterers and the printers and everyone else owed money might like to think that The BRADFORD BULLS as an entity might like to get some of their money back.
alternatively when Bradford try to sign some contracts for services next season they might be told give us the money up front or FO.
It also makea mockery of the RFL that they bailed Bradford out and left them with their assets and did nothing for the creditors.
If what you are saying is right i could see the Bulls and the RFL being tied up in legal issues for years.
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| The way the system is seems to play into the hands of players with longer term contracts. They secure their future by signing a long contract but if something like this happens they put themselves on the market to see who bites. If the club is saved then they win as their contract is passed over and they were happy with it when they signed it.
However, if they hit upon a club who offers them more money they just bide their time and refuse to be under contract to the new owners when offered. If no one offers them a better contract they just realise they're on a good thing where they are and stay. It's win win for them unless the club goes under.
I feel sorry for the out-of-contract players who have expected a new contract then a short sentence in a newspaper quoted from their coach hints the whole lot of out-of-contract players are on their way out. They're suddenly trying to find new clubs, new careers etc.
As for Kopczak he's hardly set the world on fire this season anyway. Good luck to him in his new club!
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?'"
What legal fast one is that? Do enlighten us?
Be aware in your reply that some of us on here are clearly far better acquainted with the insolvency legislation than you seem to be, so we await your response with interest.
I would also suggest in your response you indicate why your statement does not constitute a libel on Mr Khan and/or his company.
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| Well moving away from the Giants bashing... which i think it is too early to do due to the little information we have been given but thats just my opinion!
Hopefully Koppie getting his letter on the 3rd of Sept saying his contract was TUPEd across to the new company as of the 31st Aug means he is the only one to serve notice against it and make leave!
Hopefully the majority of the other contracted players have agreed and we can get some OOC signed up now and concentrate on rugby league next season instead!
Wow more threads on matches than finances! I have a dream.... 
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| Quote hullbg="hullbg"Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them.
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Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull
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| Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull'"
you really have no clue what happened between fc and gateshead do you?
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| Quote Gi4nts="Gi4nts"Then surely Kopczak is a free agent as are all the other Bulls players unless they have signed contracts with the new debt free company?'"
It's all been explained many times over, but you are plainly far too thick to have a clue what it all means. You could start by googling TUPE but in a nutshell when taking over a business the new owner takes on all the existing contracts as is and has no choice in the matter. That help, idiot? '"
Quote Gi4nts="Gi4nts"Idiot!!
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Indeed, you are.
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| Quote number 6="number 6"you really have no clue what happened between fc and gateshead do you?'"
Only that Gateshead were removed from SL all their playing staff and administrative staff were transfered to what was Hull Sharks and SL funded the new club to the tune of £1.25 million over 2 years to keep the Hull club alive.
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Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Only that Gateshead were removed from SL all their playing staff and administrative staff were transfered to what was Hull Sharks and SL funded the new club to the tune of £1.25 million over 2 years to keep the Hull club alive.'"
they weren't removed, they ceased to exist as they were about to go bust! hull fc asked to play in the then northern ford premiership but some clubs chairmen at the time, (mainly our smaller neighbours) blocked that route hoping hull fc itself would go bust, only then the RFL stepped in and offered the two teams the money to merge with the gateshead board deciding to fold and move all admin and playing staff to hull fc!
hull fc didnt kill off gateshead superleague club, the fans that stopped going did that as they were only getting 1000-2000 fans by the latter stages of the season as you can see by this match report!
www.hullfc.com/first-team/match/ ... under-6-25
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Quote ifallwerelikemumby="ifallwerelikemumby"Only that Gateshead were removed from SL all their playing staff and administrative staff were transfered to what was Hull Sharks and SL funded the new club to the tune of £1.25 million over 2 years to keep the Hull club alive.'"
they weren't removed, they ceased to exist as they were about to go bust! hull fc asked to play in the then northern ford premiership but some clubs chairmen at the time, (mainly our smaller neighbours) blocked that route hoping hull fc itself would go bust, only then the RFL stepped in and offered the two teams the money to merge with the gateshead board deciding to fold and move all admin and playing staff to hull fc!
hull fc didnt kill off gateshead superleague club, the fans that stopped going did that as they were only getting 1000-2000 fans by the latter stages of the season as you can see by this match report!
www.hullfc.com/first-team/match/ ... under-6-25
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