Oh Hell's Bells - now I'm plaguing myself again with conspiracy theories....Jeffries sent off for a foul that never was, Seymour excused for a red card offence, Widnes ably assisted to a defeat by tries that shouldn't have been tries and now they move the Salford game to Wakey's advantage. Is there a feeling in anyone else's stomach-pit that it would be just too embarassing to have a team in the play-offs that you intend to demote to the Championship?

RFL and Sky have history in not making teams kick off at same time thus ensuring they know what they need to do - 94 - Warrington, Bradford & Wigan equal on points with 1 game to go - Friday night - Wire beat Sheffield go top, Saturday afternoon - we beat Leeds - go top on PD, Sunday night - Wigan beat Oldham - win league on PD - all live on Sky!!

I dont believe that a team outside the top 4 should win the GF seems ridiculous to me that you could got the season undefeated and brush teams aside like they where paper, but you could lose out in the playoffs due to possibly a dodgy call always seemed to elude me as to why it isnt the top 4 teams in a playoff

I know perfectly well which side was wearing which colour thanks. We did watch the same game but from a different perspective, as I also said

You will obviously have seen decisions that went in Wakefields favour as they did you no favours, whereas I will have noticed more the decisions he gave Widnes (or more correctly the decisions he didn't give to Wakefield) as they were against us.
In the first half there were times when some of the Widnes payers may as well have been given a pillow and a duvet they spent that long lying on and not being penalised.


You talk about conspiracy theories and the ref having a hand in deciding your game by binning Jeffries etc but you got beat by 64 points (SIXTY FOUR!!). That is not down to a couple of dodgy decisions is it, but that's what you remember from the game.


Show me an avid fan of any club that doesn't watch a game involving or affecting their team with rose-tinted glasses on, there are very few of them around.

So you think Wigan could be clear of the 4th placed club by 8-10 points and then lose out to a dodgy decision in a playoff game and that would be OK, but for them to lose out to a team that finished 5th on same points as 4th is ridiculous.

Good argument!

Touche never though of a PD tie.

But i still think the top 4 teams who should be the best in the league irrelevant of PD should have the chance to make the GF the top 8 allows a team with possibly more losses than wins to have a chance to compete for the GF if you see what i am saying, failing that cant we just go back to the top 6 was always more exciting than what they have changed it to