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| In general I am with Tigertot, there is an unhealthy obsession with concentrating on the perceived performances of referees, who ATEOTD are doing their best in a thankless job, for not much money, its traditional that they get stick all game, and both sides of fans yell as if it were the most biased ref ever against their team, but I'd like to think that after the game any real RL fan would buy the ref a beer and recognise what he does.
I must say that at the moment the standard of reffing is considerably poorer than in past years, and this I suspect has something to do with it not being that great a wage for a full time job, so, just like rugby players, teams are not filled with 13 Lockyers or Slaters, but with average Joes who make mistakes and don't play crash hot. To an extent, their shortcomings are concealed by being just one in a team, but the ref is almost totally exposed.
There have unusually been a handful of occasions of late where I thought the ref was bad enough to be fair game for criticism. In general I reckon you can always find the odd decision to dissect but should be thankful you have a ref at all, and that he gets the vast majority of calls arguably right.
Having watched the game again on video, I can see why Childs gets the stick he does, its because he makes calls which seem petty, and makes too many poor decisions. He doesn't however make a LOT of poor decisions. It's just that when he does, then that is what the crowd jumps on.
Two examples, which wound the crowd up because each led to tries, were firstly an "offside" call in our half, which was plain wrong, the video shows all players were back comfortably 10, but KR got another 6 and scored. It was more maddening for the crowd because he'd let play go on for a number of passes "to see if there was an advantage". It was just normal play, not that near the line, and so a self-inflicted misery.
The second was when we were in the first half defending under our own posts, and he called Langley for allegedly not standing square at the PTB. On the video, he clearly was square, and if his decisions lead directly to opposition tries (hardly surprising when its back to six tackles, 2 metres from the try line) then this will wind plenty of people up.
These examples are not to have a go at Child, because overall I thought he had a reasonable game, and he didn't influence the play too much, clearly, given that we won. I think he would be a better ref if he kept his own counsel a little bit more and resisted the urge to blow for what would be, even if correct, extremely petty infringements, when he lets the majority of these go (as he should) to let the game flow.
Lulia's attempt was not pretty but a grab not a strike, so I don't think he'll have a problem. Would have been a clear penalty.
Whitehead was in mid-air diving at the target while the KR player was still fighting to make forward progress so it was never a flop, at the point Whitehead went for the tackle it was still live play.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: Bull by the Horns "I can never understand the stance that because the protagonists make mistakes it is justifiable for the conductor of the piece to also make mistakes. The players will quite rightly be admonished and by the coaching staff for their mistermeaners and faces the ultimate sanction of being dropped, whereas the referee or so it would seems can just carry on week after week making similar mistakes without any recourse.'"
Rubbish. Every player makes mistakes every week, most never get dropped as a result.
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| I think without want to be too presumptuous, we all but agree on this. I would not expect a referee to be dropped for making a few minor or even one or two major errors any more than I would a player that would be unrealistic not to say unfair. I would however expect this to be noted by the powers that be and no doubt it is and dealt with accordingly and as is the case with a player, kept in the dressing room.
If however a player keeps making similar mistakes or for that matter anyone in any business, they are “retrained” and whilst being retrained taken from the work face to concentrate on improving their performance i.e. dropped. This does not in my opinion appear to be the case with referees, which is again in my opinion very unusual.
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| I have no evidence but would be amazed if there wasn't weekly review of referee pperformance & regular training/retraining. There just isn't a pool of full time & good enough refs large enough to drop them regularly. The same with most squads; unless you are the Warrington of this world there is not much quality waiting for their chance on the bench.
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