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10,000 is a very good core support - a lot stronger than cas, wakey, london etc.

However if that core support is based up selling tickets at a price cheaper than you would nomally do so then the spend of the busines has to be cut accordingly.

As much as we all say get the supporters in and then the shortfall is made up by additional spend in the club shop etc this simply is not the case.

If you re offered a £10 ticket rather than a £20 ticket are you realistically going to spend that £10 extra in your pocket at the game? Many simply take it as a saving.

For those going regulary its simply a case of spending your budget at the game and if you save something then great.

And even if you do spend that money on a burger and a coffee etc some of that will be going to external suppliers who pay rent at the ground - its not necessarily going into the clubs coffers. Other may go to the pub accross the road before the game which reduces the reveune take further.

Ultimately the model is flawed and requires a big money backer to subsidise the shortfall i.e. Huddersfield

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Halifax may have had larger crowds (though never as big as Bradford's) when they were successful, but that success was built on spending money they didn't have (sounds familiar) and the receivers were called in.

Would Halifax be able to grow sustainably? Their fans might say so but I fear that without a wealthy backer they would be just heading for trouble in the long run.

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Quote: Northernrelic "And there in lies the rub, because although in the last few weeks the majority focus has been rightly on just surviving - there is always the undercurrent of not only should we survive but also get back to collecting trophies. But to do this we are having to compete with clubs with either one of the "fabled Sugar Daddies" who is happy to chuck in several hundred thousand a year, or clubs with gates several thousand higher than ours - some of the swine even have both which is highly unsporting of them!

The Dark Lord may have made himself unpopular by berating the fans for not turning out in sufficient numbers but the maths behind his comments is right.'"


I think that you'll find that clubs like Leeds and Wire, at least, have managed their finances to a point where the 'sugar daddy' does not contribute at all. Simon Moran only acquired the club after several years when John Smith, a tough accountant who was CEO of Wire at their lowest ebb, cut every cost under the sun to stop the club losing money. The cuts were so ruthless that we ran no 'A' team for several years, with the result that we had no youth policy ( something other fans taunt us with to this day ) effectively before we moved to the HJ.

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Quote: Asgardian13 "I think that you'll find that clubs like Leeds and Wire, at least, have managed their finances to a point where the 'sugar daddy' does not contribute at all. Simon Moran only acquired the club after several years when John Smith, a tough accountant who was CEO of Wire at their lowest ebb, cut every cost under the sun to stop the club losing money. The cuts were so ruthless that we ran no 'A' team for several years, with the result that we had no youth policy ( something other fans taunt us with to this day ) effectively before we moved to the HJ.'"


Do you honestly believe that Moran is not contributing at all to Wire? Really?

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Quote: debaser "Do you honestly believe that Moran is not contributing at all to Wire? Really?'"



TBF dont think morans contributes much towards day to day running costs anymore. Where his money comes into play is wires ability to pay transfer fees.

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Quote: mat "TBF dont think morans contributes much towards day to day running costs anymore. Where his money comes into play is wires ability to pay transfer fees.'"


And large bills. Like ones to the taxman

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