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| Quote LifeLongHKRFan="LifeLongHKRFan"Well its true. Just get on with making the cougars a better product and you may have a shot. At the moment its like watching a five year old having a tantrum but making it last for 17 years. And if it makes you feel better then here you go.
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Try selling a glass ceiling competition to the people of a town who have an ingrained scepticism about the sport, and lets see how you get on.
Until you show some empathy the the supporters of lower league clubs, you'll spend a lot of time wondering why they enjoy watching Super League clubs fail. And I'm not convinced that Hull KR are immune.
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| Quote aj cougar="aj cougar"To sum up:
1) We actively extended the hand of friendship to you, with Bulls staff visiting the club to look at the community schemed marketing etc...prior to advent of Super League/Bulls
2) Caisley publicly rubbished and patronised us (it was in the T&A)
3) When the Super League broke, it was the trinity of Lindsay, Hetherington and Caisley who drove the meetings and decision making. On one occasion I know of, a meeting was organised, I think at Manchester Airport between the chosen few. Our directors actually gate crashed said meeting. This was out of the configns of the RFL..a tawdry stitch up. The reports I heard back from our club reps about the conduct and manner of certain people appalled me. They had no reason to make this up did they?
4) Council money: Large sums of OUR money were being spent on effectively financing YOUR club. This was strenously denied by many Bulls supporters, but subsequent events proved it to be the case. You were living rent free.
5) A lack of any support on our exclusion, and then a marked degree of humility through the subsequent years.
I know Caisley is not the only one, but he, and by association the Bulls, are inextricably linked with what happened to my team...which was deplorably handled.'"
Or you could leave that all in the lengthy past and actively look at placing the club in a position of strength where it is nigh on impossible to be ignored by the RFL for SL inclusion?
But then it's easy to be negative about the past than be positive about the future. It's what us British are comfortable with and at which we excel. Keighley are gold medalists.
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| Quote aj cougar="aj cougar"3) When the Super League broke, it was the trinity of Lindsay, Hetherington and Caisley who drove the meetings and decision making. '"
This is a genuine question - why on earth would the head of the RFL take along the bosses of one small-ish and one tiny top flight club to his key meetings with him?
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| Quote Gurus_Beard="Gurus_Beard"Or you could leave that all in the lengthy past and actively look at placing the club in a position of strength where it is nigh on impossible to be ignored by the RFL for SL inclusion?
But then it's easy to be negative about the past than be positive about the future. It's what us British are comfortable with and at which we excel. Keighley are gold medalists.'"
Well Chris that's taken the biscuit!
There has been much trumpeting of your own glorious past as being reason enough for a stay of exclusion from SL, but as soon as it suits you, you tell other fans to ignore the bits you don't like
You couldn't make it up!
Is that what you are telling the tax man Chris? "I'ts in the past, forget about it"
PS good luck to the Bradford fans, raising that 500K was pretty awesome by anyone's standard.
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"Well Chris that's taken the biscuit!
There has been much trumpeting of your own glorious past as being reason enough for a stay of exclusion from SL, but as soon as it suits you, you tell other fans to ignore the bits you don't like
You couldn't make it up!'"
I will assume you have deliberately misread my post, which actually suggested you take a positive stance and presented a strong business case as opposed to spurious gripes about what may or may not have happened. Notwithstanding some (not all) Keighley fans taking great pleasure in the Bulls current situation. Poor form.
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| Quote aj cougar="aj cougar"To sum up:
1) We actively extended the hand of friendship to you, with Bulls staff visiting the club to look at the community schemed marketing etc...prior to advent of Super League/Bulls
2) Caisley publicly rubbished and patronised us (it was in the T&A)
3) When the Super League broke, it was the trinity of Lindsay, Hetherington and Caisley who drove the meetings and decision making. On one occasion I know of, a meeting was organised, I think at Manchester Airport between the chosen few. Our directors actually gate crashed said meeting. This was out of the configns of the RFL..a tawdry stitch up. The reports I heard back from our club reps about the conduct and manner of certain people appalled me. They had no reason to make this up did they?
4) Council money: Large sums of OUR money were being spent on effectively financing YOUR club. This was strenously denied by many Bulls supporters, but subsequent events proved it to be the case. You were living rent free.
5) A lack of any support on our exclusion, and then a marked degree of humility through the subsequent years.
I know Caisley is not the only one, but he, and by association the Bulls, are inextricably linked with what happened to my team...which was deplorably handled.'"
So it's our fault by association then? Despite us fans having nothing to do with any of it.
That explains the warm welcome whenever I've been to Cougar Park
Seems that some fans wish ill fortune on others because of a the actions of administrators. That hardly seems fair and if anything holds the game back even more.
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| Quote Gurus_Beard="Gurus_Beard"I will assume you have deliberately misread my post, which actually suggested you take a positive stance and presented a strong business case as opposed to spurious gripes about what may or may not have happened. Notwithstanding some (not all) Keighley fans taking great pleasure in the Bulls current situation. Poor form.'"
I have every respect for the outstanding effort of the Bradford fans in trying to save the club they love.
I have little respect for the Bradford Management, past and present.
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"I have every respect for the outstanding effort of the Bradford fans in trying to save the club they love.
I have little respect for the Bradford Management, past and present.'"
You're one of us I know it. 
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"I have every respect for the outstanding effort of the Bradford fans in trying to save the club they love.
I have little respect for the Bradford Management, past and present.'"
I have little respect for the price Worth Valley Railway tries to charge me for a day out with the family 
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"You're one of us I know it.
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Now, now, that's getting carried away a tad. But I don't see the point in continuing to be hostile to your fans.
However it is worth remembering that quite a few Keighley fans worked in Bradford at the time, and from talking to them, SOME Bradford fans made life rather unpleasant.
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| Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"Now, now, that's getting carried away a tad. But I don't see the point in continuing to be hostile to your fans.'"
Quote Dreamer="Dreamer"However it is worth remembering that quite a few Keighley fans worked in Bradford at the time and from talking to them SOME Bradford fans made life rather unpleasant.'"
Well I suppose every club has it's kn0bheads masquerading as fans. It's up to upstanding people like us to rise above it. Like it or not we are a community and need to work together.
That said if we're playing Keighley in a local derby in NL1 next year then I take it all back 
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