I think I must be going mad reading all these posts. I have never met either Mr C or Mr H and I have no reason to like or trust either (and at the moment feel too heartbroken about the whole thing to care about anyone) but I do know that I was lied to by Mr H when he said that we were OK after the sale of Odsal, when he said that if I pledged my £100+ we'd be Ok etc etc. I was quite clearly, quite definitely and without doubt lied to by him. To date Mr C has never directly lied to me that I'm aware of (although his hints about potential investors comes close I have to admit). He may be as dishonest, evasive and incompetent as PH but I haven't listened to him directly misleading me over the last few months - and I have listened to PH doing exactly that. What strikes me forcibly, though, is that people who have actually met and had discourse with both men always seem to want to think the worst of CC and the best of PH - suggesting one is a much more amiable person than the other. Sadly amiability won't get us out of this mess and, frankly, I'd follow Satan right now if he could avoid liquidation and give me the opportunity to continue to support a club I've been attending since the 1940s (yes, the 1940s - I was taken to Odsal to see my first game in my pram in 1947!). Those posters who know both characters and are always ready to brand CC as a villain and PH as just misguided, can you honestly say that OBJECTIVELY, the latter is not just as bad as the former? And in the end, does it matter? All I care about is that my beloved club survives.

If people care to remember
Chris would have only rarely got the chance to 'lie', since as I remember, we didn't [ihave[/i things like forums back then, and as Adey rightly says Chris, a solicitor remember, a profession where the accurate use of words is important, is far too astute to be caught doing that in press interviews where the statements will be pretty much carefully crafted beforehand.

Incidentally, I do feel too many are throwing words like 'lie' around far too often. For certain we have been told many things were going to happen which subsequently didn't, but misjudgements, hopes and best guesses are not lies; a lie is a [ideliberate[/i falsehood not a mistaken prognosis made in the belief that something was true.

I was on a train to Carlisle with Caisley once. Several times in fact. He didn't make them run on time but he didn't make them run late either. Something to bear in mind.

Well said.

He's a solicitor and they exist to leach money from people, charging vast sums for doing feck all in many cases, like £30 a time to make a phone call or send a letter on your behalf. It's legalised robbery (if you pardon the pun).

I wouldn't call anyone in that profession a liar though as that will really get the tills ringing.

That's the most annoying thing IMO. Between them they're ALL to blame.