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As trivial as this may seem in the greater scheme of things IMO not paying the PAYE to HMRC is unforgivable - that is not the club's money and never has been. If my employer didn't pass my tax on I'd be more than a little angry.

What a sorry, sorry mess. Two months ago I had a little hope with our current situation. Now I have none.

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I'm afraid this is another nail in the coffin for professional sport for me. I've not commented as to be honest the whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. For my sins I support 3 professional clubsbusiness [/isense... and the morals of the system that would allow the this to happen) the simple fact is... if it's takeover in this way or the club going out of business, which is worse? Of course... on a philosophical note, it the question is the former, do we in turn have to look at our own morals...?

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Bewaresheep - philosophy, morals, ethics and business all in one post. I fear however that in the modern world the first three do not enter into the world of business.

Everyone seems to strive for objectives that are demonstrably beyond their resource and structure to support. Your comments above hit Red-Hall's wishful thinking right on the head and I suspect they way things are moving SL is going to be smaller next year but not quite in the way the RFL intended?

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The phrase politically correct is in itself politcally incorrect so should be rephrased politically stupid! If you like old type radio comedy/ dramas etc listen to //pumpkinfm.com/ Statistically speaking you have a better chance of getting dead the older you get! Thank god only when you find a religion that passes the truth test!:13554.jpg



Quote: ridlerbull "Bear in mind, the website was hosted/powered by none other than NAK Business World AKA Peter Hood's pi$s poor web design company. Dunno what this implies, but nothing in this debacle is simple...'"


They may have set up the website but its the Bulls that run and in particular it was Stuart Duffy who managed it and without him........

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Quote: martinwildbull "apologies bulliac, my estimate was purely settlement, which is given as £550k for compensation and costs. our costs are give as £79K. even then there is scope for ambiguity as Coulby says that this is for related legal costs paid out 2005-8. in 2005 we were ordered to pay an estimated £64K for Leeds costs for the original hearing that established the breach. Now is this included in those legal costs or has it been given another title eg "Compensation"? Anyway, my total cost estimate is £550K + £79K + £64K

<coughs> In terms of the overall financial impact, I believe (though do not actually know) that Mr. Harris did not come for nothing, and did not play for nothing, and that his agent did not work for nothing. If indeed there was an additional cost to the club, then it needs to be added to these figures. The judge mentioned a figure, but I suppose he could have made it up. That figure did not include image rights money.

If Leeds's costs of the preliminary issue hearing itself were 64K then you can confidently say that their other costs of the whole litigation, as opposed to just one element of it, were a shedload more than 18K!

I must say that the statement is breathtakingly partial. I am particularly annoyed by thisThe costs to the club had, however, been absorbed by the business prior to the settlement being reached, leaving £550K to be covered going forward, and the budget for 2009 was prepared on a break-even position and full salary cap spend after allowing for the first payment to Leeds.”'"


No, the cost had NOT been bloody well "absorbed", if by that is meant we had somehow made it irrelevant, brushed it under a carpet or otherwise waved a magic wand to cause it to go away. It was a huge amount of CASH that went out of the door, and if we had not done it, then that cash would have been in our coffers going forward.

Would an extra million in the bank have made any difference to our situation? Absorbed my arrse.

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ël presidente"must be sure that HMRC Forensics Accounting dept Leeds is not going to take interest in seeing if there are "any off the books" monies that have evaded being Taxed! icon_wink.gif

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