A keel, but even with what? Unless we can find a benefactor like the leading clubs have, our keel will remain a couple of levels below their keels.

In a way, we are approaching full circle. I can quite easily see - IF we can keep the cream of our developing young talent - situation where in 2 or 3 years time we have grown back into a consistent force, and are back in the top 4 area. By which time the crowds would be back up to over 10K 'normal paying' customers. And we are where we were when Caisley was last in charge, moaning at the fans for the crowds actually being slightly down even though we were winning. Which is because while at around 11K fans we can run the show, it still isn't enough to compete with sugar daddy clubs on anything like a level playing field.

But sadly telling the fans off for not coming is probably the most stupid, pointless and annoying thing that any club chairman can do. I understand entirely how they must feel, but it is really bizarre to think in the 21st C. you could get more people to come by giving them a jolly good ticking off.

So, to sum up my point, we needed and still need a rich benefactor to compete at the level people fatuously claim we "should" be, (as if we had a right), if we don't get one the we could within a couple of years become close to a top 5 - top 6 team, improving, but in the meantime I doubt it is sensible to expect the team to be kept together when the money just won't be coming through the gate in large enough quantities, unless the new bosses can persuade somebody - even if not a true sugar daddy - to part with a ranch, which we can bet on our future progress.

Already got my ticket. Bought it yesterday, for 2 draws, as i knew I wouldn't win on the first one.

If my arithmetic is correct, it will pay the running costs shortfall from now until the next Transit of Venus. Fscked if I know what we'll do after that, though.

Does buying a shirt and season ticket disqualify you as an unconnected third party??

Well if you read it on here, it must be true.

I wonder if the group from the far east who have made Cardiff play in red fancy a change? I am sure for a small investment we would happily play in red or anything else for that matter

I am sure they would get less grief from our fans than they will from Cardiffs!!!

No. The season ticket was, as you know, basically free, and they didn't have a shirt big enough . . .