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Quote: Adeybull "You will never know if it was, because the previous board are no longer in situ, are no longer in a position to demonstrate whether or notthey told the fans the truth, and were never going to be able to do so once Caisley intervened to effectively stymie any inward investment - by making public the the shareholder disagreement the day before the pledge closed.

If the current board DOES "conclude" that administration is the "only option", you will never know what the true financial position was. Because all you will ever see or see quoted from - if you are lucky - will be the Statement of Affairs. Whcih is drawn up on a Realisation as opposed to a Going Concern basis. Which means it shows loads of liabilities that crystalise only on insolvency, and assets written down to their realisable amount. And therefore shows a far far worse financial position than a set of accounts does. Because it is not showing the same information.

And yet, just you watch. If it IS administration, I bet you will see people quoting numbers from the SOA to "prove" how bad the financial situation was. WHich will be total and utter bollox, and if they do I will shout it from the rooftoops. Since an SOA shows the position AFTER a business has been declared formally insolvent, so it is BOUND to look far worse. I sincerely hope, if administration DOES come to pass, that the new board, or Caisley, or anyone else involved in the process, tries to take the fans for fools with disingenuous statements. If they try, I'll be watching.

Incidentally, I felt sure, from talking to all of them, that the previous board were aware of their responsibilities regarding Trading whilst Insolvent - and the personal liability that such action can bring. And therefore I concluded that they would surely not call the pledge in unless they had realistic expectations that the business would not be insolvent afterwards, since for them to do otherwise would be reckless in the extreme, and perhaps render them exposed to actions against them personally. That is why I made my pledge straight after that discussion. But Caisley's intervention seems to have ensured that we will never now know the truth of it -since the previous board could use the (probably almost almost irrefutable) defence that they genuinely believed the pledge would secure further investment, but the intervention understandably frightened the prospective investors off.'"



Agree on the SOA and am I right in thinking they can project contracts they are obliged to honour as liabilities going forward. I also agree with the poster who refers to the role of Ryan Duckett in all of this. Surely, he can't be surprised by the financial position having been CEO.

On the last point, with the best will in the world I really can't see how you can make a case for the liklihood of PH almost securing investment only to be hijacked by the comments of CC. The loan from the RFL and the sale of the lease look like utterly desperate measures and the very fact that he was forced into a humiliating statement as regards the club almost going under surely underlines his inability to secure any serious support over the previous period. Asking for investment in the same statement you announce the club is a few weeks from having a chain put on the gate says the game was long up.

On the other hand if you, I or anyone else who owned 26% of a business and heard the Chair and CEO announce what they did, then I think you would have to act. I don't see what else could have happened.

FWIW I'm surer than ever that Hood should have taken the club into admin before the settlement of the Harris deal siting the alleged £3.2million liability.

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Well Panto season as started early, Billy Pearce to play Peter Hood, Brian Rix to play Caisley (why him? cause his trousers were always falling down)

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If there are investors or sponsors out there with even a small number of working brain cells then they will take one look at all these unedifying exchanges between our shareholders and promptly close their cheque books.
Both parties claim to have the interests of the club at heart - but putting aside all past actual or alledged mistakes - this continuing conflict really could deliver the last rights to the club.
You might be able to re-write history, or spin it but you certainly cannot change it - the only thing the BoD, the club and maybe even the long suffering fans can do is influence the future

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Quote: Northernrelic "If there are investors or sponsors out there with even a small number of working brain cells then they will take one look at all these unedifying exchanges between our shareholders and promptly close their cheque books.
Both parties claim to have the interests of the club at heart - but putting aside all past actual or alledged mistakes - this continuing conflict really could deliver the last rights to the club.
You might be able to re-write history, or spin it but you certainly cannot change it - the only thing the BoD, the club and maybe even the long suffering fans can do is influence the future'"


Agree with your thoughts what the investors might think - sad but unfortunately true.

As for history; well it's usually written by the winners - until the revisionists come along. Revisionism is often derided, and the word used as a pejorative, but in truth the original history (the one written by the winners) isn't necessarily an accurate reflection of what went on either.

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How can anyone make even an attempt at a rational dicussion when petty politis are being played out? the new board have to stop messing about and tell us what they are going to do.

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Quote: juliebull "How can anyone make even an attempt at a rational dicussion when petty politis are being played out? the new board have to stop messing about and tell us what they are going to do.'"


Not much business, of any kind, is done in the open, Julie. Most of it goes on behind closed doors (or out on the golf course icon_smile.gif ) and well out of the limelight, so I wouldn't expect to hear very much, one way or the other, until things are actually sorted. Even then I wouldn't expect much detail.

That said I get the very distinct impression that there is some 'seeding' going on on the boards; possibly from both sides but certainly from the new board. There seems to be stream of either new, or very irregular, posters coming on to deride any speculation they're not happy with, and to post 'exclusive' news snippets, on which we, apparently, must "just trust them".

I've supported the club for many years, and in all truth I don't give a tinker's cuss who is sitting in the director's box, but I'm losing faith with all of them right now.

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