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Quote: Bullseye "On the issue of Potter I agree with Bullinenemyland that in order to turn things around we need a completely new broom. A new coach with fresh new ideas would be ideal. It happened in 1977 when we brought in Peter Fox and it happened again in 1995/6 with Smith and Elliott. Both had fresh ideas and could get great performances out of limited players and spot potential in the transfer market.

In 1996 we had the help of a pile of cash with the first sky deal. I'm not sure how we're fixed financially after the Odsal deal but if we can possibly do so we need to think about a big shake up.'"


I thought that's what Plopper was supposed to be? To be fair, I agree with you and when the big 'who should replace Macca' debate was going on I said as such.

However... I think we have to give Potter the rest of the season. The players who were brought in last were in the main part those who were available where as this season he's had more choice and options. These need to be given time to gel. Several of the Aussies seemed to be 'late' arrivals for various reasons and the pre-season in UK RL is a joke - the only team who seemed to have a proper test (rather than games against other SL teams or those from the lower division) was Wire. The more settled teams are going to hit the ground running compared to those who have once again had a big player turnover. Is Potter good enough? I'm not sure - Saints were hardly a 'bad' team when he took over and weren't Catalans essentially an Aussie team?

I don't think Nobby is the right man for the job. Good as his record was, it was done with a well established squad that he knew inside out.

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Quote: daveyz999 "again, being realistic, its no surprise we lost to Wigan on the 3rd game of the season.

did you think we would win?

I expect the team to perform better against the big teams, but i'm prepared to let them get used to each other before branding the season a failure (after round 3).

Some fans expect us to sign class players and then finish top - lets not get carried away!

Look at the fixtures, our first 4 home games couldn't have been much harder. Let the players find some form, then we will see them competing with the top teams. Calling for potters head after round 3 just seems a little premature.'"



When have i said i expect us to finish top I said top 8. I then provided you with stats to suggest we have to beat the top sides.

I didn't expect us to beat Wigan. I do expect us to be competitive and not be humilated and concede 50 points again.

We have played two home games and haven't even looked like troubling the opposition.

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Quote: Bull Mania "When have i said i expect us to finish top I said top 8. I then provided you with stats to suggest we have to beat the top sides.

I didn't expect us to beat Wigan. I do expect us to be competitive and not be humilated and concede 50 points again.

We have played two home games and haven't even looked like troubling the opposition.'"



I didn't think we looked too bad in the first half. We competed and only let them score as a result of a mistake or 2.

2nd half was one to forget though - I'm not going to condone that!

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Quote: Bull Mania "When have i said i expect us to finish top I said top 8. I then provided you with stats to suggest we have to beat the top sides.

I didn't expect us to beat Wigan. I do expect us to be competitive and not be humilated and concede 50 points again.

We have played two home games and haven't even looked like troubling the opposition.'"


Looking at the next two home games I can't see us troubling them too much either, to be honest, well not in terms of looking as though we might win, though I definitely hope we will defend a bit better. Thing is, we're talking about last years top four being served up in our first four home games. It was always going to be hard and, bar a miracle a pointless four games. I do, of course, live in hope as always, but fully expect reality to bite me on the bum.

For sure, it's never good to concede 50, but Wigan will do that to stronger sides than us before the season is over and in all honesty I don't think it effects where we will finish come September. Losing to Wakey would have bigger consequences so let's hope we rebound on them like we did at Cas.

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While wins versus the top 4 might be almost impossible I would like to see us compete a bit more. That would at least show we were making progress. The Wire game is a big one IMO because last year you could see from the players body langauge in the warm up that they were resigned to a hiding. The result was Wire didn't have to break sweat to hammer us as we gifted them tries all over the park. It was second only to Salford away as our worst performance last year.

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