I remember discussing this in about 2007/2008ish.

I don't come from Bradford and don't have any particular loyalty to the city so therefore I don't have any emotional ties to the name Bradford.

However... I would hate to see the club changing it's name for anything as cynical as a marketing ploy. The club were Bradford when I started watching them... it's not like I thought 'oh, I'll just ignore the Bradford bit...' or they mis-represented themselves! By all means focus on the Bulls part because it is very marketable and synonymous with the success we had, but... unlike Wigan (who had that remarkable spell of success) or even Leeds (who talked the talk despite not really walking the walk until they became 'Rhino's'), I don't think the 'Bradford' part sells itself in the Rugby League and especially the none RL world in the same way.

To be honest, you can't judge a city on what the local rag says - like all papers they tend to highlight the negative and, being a local paper their focus is purely on the city! Being an outsider and not a reader of the T&A (except the sports page on the website) the image I have of the city is of an incompetent council rather than a city that's any better of worse than any other. You have to remember that both new shopping precincts in Leeds were put on hold including one that, like Bradfords, had already started but unlike yours it at least looked like it was under way rather than being the now infamous hole so didn't get the bad press. Wakie also has the same situation I believe. I don't know whether Bradford will ever rid itself of the image it gained due to it's large Asian community and 1980's standups but it's up to the City to portray it as a negative thing and the club to exploit this largely untapped fanbase.

Lose the Bradford and, as has been mentioned, you leave yourself open to re-location. But the same could be said even if you keep the name if someone's wallet was big enough. You lose the sense of identity that makes local rivalries what they are. You lose the positives that a successful team can bring to a city. I know there are those on here who think the council should do more for the club but, to be honest, that's not what it's there for. Like any politician or political body I would fully expect them to jump on the back of any success but there job is running the city, not a privately owned sports club (in the same way the Leeds Council refused to loan LUFC money to buy back Elland Road)

Ilkley is not 'street', it's 'boulevard'.

It does also work the other way.....

When on holiday in Marmaris (Turkey) there was a huge curry house with a sign outside saying "Famous chef from Bradford".

One evening, me and the Mrs decided to give the curry house a go. We asked if the owner was around and one of the waiters fetched for him. After chatting to him it turns out he was actually from Dewsbury but thought the lure of a 'Bradford' chef would bring in larger amounts of customers!

To be fair, it was a good curry!!

Indeed.

I was just thinking that myself this morning, when I turned right off Church Street to avoid the traffic lights at the "Crescent" crossroads with Brook Street, then drove along West Street before turning right into Brook Street. I presume you have had your butler take this issue of inappropriate street names up with your MP?

Get down wiv da kids, grandad. When we say 'street' we don't mean street, we mean [i'street'.[/i Though I do admit to liking [i'crescent'[/i, I might use that in the 'hood from now on. Innit.

All this talk of 'Crescents' and Boulevards' suggests someone is trying to come on a teensy bit 'Hawwowghahte' (or Arragit, as most of my rellies would no doubt call it, but I'm sure it has more aitches than that ).