Yes have to agree, lynchy is no captain material we need someone who is vocal !

No criticism of Lynch, but a change would be a good thing for the new season. Heath for me as hes the right attitude and in the centre of play, but what I cannot suggest yet is who is primary on-field captain when Heaths on the bench.

That's when we should be able to turn to our loose to lead the team. But he's always missing. And I'll criticise Lynch, I have no problem with doing it.

Rob Hawthorn is okay now. His defence is average and he can run, not sure how fast he is tbh. But sooner have him in U20's than 1st team mate.

Firstly , the players I would hate to see leave are; Heath, Kearney, Raynor, Whitehead, Burgess, Elima, Koppy... and that's about it, I'd say everyone else is average and we should be aiming at better! But unfortunately we're stuck with the likes of Sykes, Platt etc.

Secondly, the lack of leadership was so apparent yesterday with and without Lynch on the pitch! (Who was the captain when Lynch wasn't on?)

If Heath isn't given the captaincy and Lynch retains the captaincy.. we'll again struggle to get in the 8 next year!

Heath, Diskin or Ollie for captain for me next season.

Whilst the idea of a senior group was unusual when maguire had it, there has always been a need for a core of players to look to when it gets tough. we simply dont have it, and i struggle to see how 1 player would change that.

forget the reasons, but you take out menzies, orford and hall, and look at the replacements and i stuggle to see the leadership element replaced. I was intially against it, but i feel we do need an experienced a fiery prop to give the pack the bite they should have/ need. sammut will add to the vocal aspect, and lestrange returning will be good, but still need to add to the character of the side

You're right about the character of the side. Too many are ready to take a loss too easily.

We need another nasty forward a bit like Elima. Add a bit of fire to our game.

Tbh i'd be happy if we signed Ryan Bailey. Our pack is too soft atm. Can't leave it all to Oli and Tom B

Agree mate and I for one would welcome Bailey (if somewhat controversial) with open arms.

As I said earlier a good attacking ball playing loose forward is also a must although Addy deserves his chance there.

The backline for 2012 is looking to be something totally different to what we have seen over the past three/fours years with it certainly possessing that dynamic and potent edge.

To say we lost the game on Sunday from that kick off wouldn't at all be an understatement mate.