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Quote: slideby "My major concern here is that I have heard rumours potter isnt too popular at odsal. there have been comments he isnt too involved in the day to day on field training, hasnt developed relationships with the players and there is no 'club buyin'. by this, i mean that all the training takes place at tong, so there is a real seperation between the players and the club staff members etc. Whilst this does not seem too important, it can impact the pride of playing for the club etc.

Potters major downfall imo is the lack of consistancy in choosing a backline. Its seems to be accepted the partnerships and cohesion are important for a backline to be effective, yet it seems we never have the same combinations. rotating in the forwards is much easier but halfs and centre/wing combinations take time and he doesnt seem to give them this time, and this doesnt even take into account the effect the changes have on morale.

i would be interested to see how many of the centres have had the same winger and halfs for 3+ games before being dropped for a in experienced 2nd row. if potter didnt see whitehead as a centre in pre season, then surely he needs to give the guys he did see as centres a min of 3 games without change to assess them.'"




i think you are wrong. rumours of potter not being liked? by whom..dave halley! a sour faced bitter reject? potter is professional through and through, he differs from mcnamara as he had favourites who he let bum lick him hence therefore getting a place in the team. potter is serious and a hard task master, he picks the team on ability and ability alone. the training regime put in place my potter is a dramatic improvement on what mcnamara had in place- a few hours play around compared to potters intensive days long training sessions. maybe money was the reason why we signed poor players this year? and its a case of potter has to make do with that he has (a few poor players) you do not know what potter has allowed him to play with and what players the bulls buget enabled them to sign
i personally feel for potter as he must be pulling his hair out at the massive comparision between his ex st helens players and what he has to work with at bulls d040.gif

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Quote: redeverready "Lynch is supposedly our top earner I don't believe we have had value for money out of him this season.'"


Mate, that goes for almost all of them, to a greater or lesser extent?

Without knowing the packages, we probably had VFM out of Koppy and some of the youngsters, and probably Raynor and Heath? And too many players have been injured for too long to be able to say we have had VFM?

But I reckon we have had more value for money out of Lynch than almost anyone else? Especially when you take into account time spent on field?

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Some of our signings have been poor - there is no doubting that. Some of them have gone wrong through circumstances outside the clubs control.

I put this on the other thread - with hindsight I should have realised that thread was doomed.

I seem to remember a post full of advice/encouragement from a Wigan fan maybe 18/12 ago. He (put simply) was saying that Wigan had had problems - panic buying, no forward thinking and made one astute signing - Trent Barrett.

He gave Wigan time - time to integrate their youth setup, allowed them to compete better in the short term, allowed them to use their quota signings properly - signing class rather than "good enough". He got them points from games that they otherwise wouldn't have got.

We had just signed Awford - which is where the encouragement came from. And - as most people would agree, for the first few months of that season, he did give us the ability to compete at a higher level than we otherwise would. The rest is history. And probably set us back at least 2yrs.

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Quote: Highlander "Some of our signings have been poor - there is no doubting that. Some of them have gone wrong through circumstances outside the clubs control.

I put this on the other thread - with hindsight I should have realised that thread was doomed.

I seem to remember a post full of advice/encouragement from a Wigan fan maybe 18/12 ago. He (put simply) was saying that Wigan had had problems - panic buying, no forward thinking and made one astute signing - Trent Barrett.

He gave Wigan time - time to integrate their youth setup, allowed them to compete better in the short term, allowed them to use their quota signings properly - signing class rather than "good enough". He got them points from games that they otherwise wouldn't have got.

We had just signed Awford - which is where the encouragement came from. And - as most people would agree, for the first few months of that season, he did give us the ability to compete at a higher level than we otherwise would. The rest is history. And probably set us back at least 2yrs.'"


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Quote: steamingbull02 "A certain section of the fans im sure your one of!'"


Christ. I get into bother for not attending games from some quarters yet get accused of being there and causing bother from others.

Like the Bulls at the moment I simply cannot win. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Highlander "We had just signed Awford - which is where the encouragement came from. And - as most people would agree, for the first few months of that season, he did give us the ability to compete at a higher level than we otherwise would. The rest is history. And probably set us back at least 2yrs.'"


I think you're spot on with saying that the Orford farce has indeed set us back two years if not more in terms of getting continuity within the halves.

I won't be alone in the hope that Sammut and Gale hit it off during the off season/pre season building.

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