Well all the soul searching doesn't help, fact is we don't have the calibre of player we had 5 years ago and just have to accept that we are a mid table outfit at best, we aint got money, a quality ground or a big name backer like all the top teams have now. We got caught up by the others, then got overtaken and we'll just have to live with it. I hope upon hope Potter can turn it round, he did at Catalan and look at them now. Time will tell.

Well seeing everyone is on the back of Herbert. The guy is FAR from the worst player we have yet most seem to have the knives out for him.

Personally I would get rid of plenty before Herbert.

indeed. to be a success, it seems, you've got to score 50 points a game and miss no tackles.

The thing is that there are too many sheep on here who just follow what certain people and agree with them because they must be too afraid to speak their own mind for fear of reprisals. They bag Herbert because everyone else seems to do so so they can join that cosy little group.

A sad indictment of this board.

Don't get me wrong I like the guy, I just feel he's at the right team at the wrong time if you get me. He is improving but I rekon we need someone who is always good, a Briers, or a Brough, or even a Dureau. With Herbert I feel we arn't getting that flair a halfback needs.

I think herbert would look outstanding in catalans team and I'm confident dureau wouldn't look as good in our team....