to say i didnt watch it on the tv, that would have been very hard. i actually found out from a sl player but not until late last night

the way his body went completely limp at the point of contact. the way he went face first into the turf without attempting to break his fall. the way he was motionless staring at the sky without so much as a blink. badly timed or not it was a bad one a straight red. i even got a text staright after it happened from a bradford fan calling for his contract to be torn up. i dont agree with that but the red card was the right call. and to the fans saying tomkins was play acting you really do embarrass yourselves. just because he seemed ok second half in the dug out doesnt detract from the fact he got knocked out by a high shot. any other player and and there wouldnt be this debate. The tomkins hate brigade is obviously in full swing, it makes me laugh to be honest how much a hatred fro a player can cloud a reasonable un biased debate.

Course you did.


That's funny. I got one from a Wigan fan saying the same about Tomkins for always bringing the game into disrepute with his play acting.

Give over mate. Injured or not (and I guess Tomkins is the only one who [ireally[/i knows) Tomkins has 'form' for feigning injury to milk penalties. He accidentally got a high speed slap, when two players running flat out, in different directions, collided, and which was largely largely caused by himself ducking into it. Sadly this gave 'Hollywood' Ganson the opportunity he delights in, to put himself into the spotlight and become the main talking point.

Incidentally, the shot by a Wigan player (O'Loughlin?) on Raynor earlier in the match was far worse because there appeared to be intent. Unlike Raynor, whose arm was not above the shoulders, the Wigan arm was raised and the tackler was running directly towards him and Raynor didn't duck, so that tackle was as good as deliberate as it gets.

Incidentally, I have nothing against Wigan and wish the club well for rest of the season, but I think some of the fans need a reality check.

And yet the Disciplinary said that O'Loughlin faced no further action.

Same as they said several Wigan players engaged in actions which appeared to be putting undue physical pressure on the Bulls player they were "tackling", but again no furtehr action.

Five or six Wigan players were looked at by the Disciplinary this week. NFAR.

Beats me.

And i thought that Warrington fans had the biggest bags of chips on their shoulders. Bad tackle, man was out cold before he hit the floor, whether it was intended or not it was reckless/dangerous. Red card, 1-2 match ban to follow and you can have no arguements. Sam gets loads of high shots, like Abletts last year i'm sure you all remember and cheered at the time, and gets up. I can assure you that Sam was not fakeing that... As opposed to Raynors fake tackle, IMO....

And on that note im assuming you never see your beloved Sam going in to tackle people with his knees, ESPECIALLY when they are crossing the line and he is too late to get accross ???????????????????????????????????????

mathers used to do that a lot.

Hell no!!!!! I'm just as one-eyed with those as you are with this Raynor tackle...

Im NOT disagreeing with the raynor tackle, YES it was reckless/dangerous but was NOT intentional, like most wigan fans are assuming was deliberate, just as im assuming Sams knees are not intentional !!!

Having watchee the tackle again imo a shot to the head was intended. but we should just agree to disagree on that. And believe it or not i am fairly even handed in my judgements... I would even agree that Sam does go in with his knees, which i hate...