As said during the commentary, only Raynor knows whether he was playing for the ball or trying to hit the player. He knocks the ball our and he's a hero, hits the player and he's a villain.

At high speed with one player diving for the line and the other coming in and diving from the side any mis-judgement is likely to end in disaster. A deliberate head shot? I'm not sure and I don't think the TV replays have the ability to look into the murky depths of someones soul as yet.

I've seen worse tackles where the player on the receiving end has got up and walked away and incidents which look like nothing where someone had been badly injured. I think the fact that Tomkins slid across the deck on his face didn't help Raynors case nor does the fact that it was played over and over in super slow motion.

So one of our best performances of year is a loss. Just the typical luck of a Bradford fan. I don't go away from this game happy but I'll take it. Challenge cup is all about winning.

Season over now, unless this performance becomes the norm. But didn't we say that after both the Leeds efforts and Cas win. I won't be expecting it just yet.

but that won't be cheating

At last some common sense, red card to me always implies intent and really think it was mistimed tackle. Two guys at full pace its easy to make a mistake. Anyway its academic and we should concentrate on a really good performance by Bradford, we need the same commitment for the rest of the season.

Performance of the season for me. With 13 men we may have gone on to win that game. Guess we'll never know.

Fantastic effort which I EXPECT to see next week against Salford.

Have to say you did very well today.

Raynors assault was awful take off your blinkers if it was on a bulls lad there would rightly be an utcry.

with 18 men i,m sure you would have won

Talk about been melodramatic! It was a mistimed attempt at dislodging the ball, nothing more.

ooops

He has to make a desperate attempt to tackle, dis lodge ball at last minute against a very quick man, who then hits his head on the hard ground which makes it look worse.

Red card? possibly but without the knock out on the ground Tomkins would have been up on his feet and no red card. You can bet Ganson and touchie didnt realise impact hitting the ground had, they wouldnt have seen that, i needed replay on TV to see collision with ground

Well done Bulls anyhow, some pride & passion at last

So by using the word assault you know that Raynor definately went in to attack the player rather than the ball? In the replays from the popular end it looks like Raynor actually tries to pull his arm back at the last minute.

I don't deny that it was a clumsy or mistimed but I have no evidence that the intent to attack the player rather than the ball was there. You see some tackles and it's obvious that the intent was there and I don't think this was one of those.