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I think the accusation of not trying is harsh on the players to be honest and suggests a group of working class lads who have thought of doing nothing except playing rugby are being dishonest in taking their wages. I just don't believe that. I bet if you spent time with them they will be totally despondent and embarrassed. To be booed off by your own fans is awful.

I think of my times at work when I've floundered it's been because I didn't really know what I was meant to be doing or there was chaos/p&&s takers at a level above me.

Lynch is a decent player but no leader in my view. We have to accept that the Orford situ left Potter with few options. Enough has been said about Herbert but on seeing both Briggs and Southernwood in the u20s neither looks physically strong enough (yet). Briggs had no pre-season. In other words the Bradford Bulls have now spent nearly 2 full seasons with between zero and very poor half back options. I don't think this Potter's fault but we see no leadership from the halves and in my view, no leadership from the skipper and front row. With Langley and Scruton out nobody leads the defensive line with any purpose. We used to attack the opposition in defence, now we wait - again a matter of leadership for me. This makes the backs look actually worse than they are (hard I know) as they are getting neither a pass worth the name plus they are getting stood up by backs who have all the time in the world to find a pass. Confidence drains away and as player or any person at work, you become hesitant and as a team you are utterly rudderless in attack and defence. I actually feel a bit sorry for the players in this situation.

So, what are the solutions. At the end of the season I would sign Leon Pryce and make him club captain. He is a quality player, a good talker and motivator and I think key in this discussion, a Bulls fan. I would also look to sign a Perry, O'Meley, Lima, Hoffman, O'Donnell, Fitzgibbon type forward to add some aggression to the line. We simply have to try again to sign another scrum half for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere. These type of players don't come cheap but 3 quality additions in key positions is essential. What we must not do is sign more Sibbitts, Hargreaves, Walkers.

As far as this season is concerned though heaven only knows.

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Do they get performance related pay? Maybe if they felt it in their pocket everytime they lost, they would be a bit more d.

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Quote: phillgee "There never seems to be any consequence for a poor performance. Donaldson was on Twitter saying how the lads are still meeting up for their Tuesday's Nandos. It seems the players are having the social side of things their own way.

I would look at cutting that kind of thing down until they actually deserve the treat. If they get beat on the field then they have to work until they get a win to go out as a team and enjoy the social side.'"




Jeez what a sad life u must lead to read donaldson's twitter!
His nando's outings are his private business which are completely separate to bulls. U can't stop an office worker going to the chippy with a few pals after work can u?! Same as him he is doing this outside of the club's time

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From my very limited experience of playing rugby I know how demoralising it can be when you're playing in a poor side without playmakers. As a runner you can try things but you need a playmaker to direct you. If it's someone doing that job who isn't up to it then attacking moves don't work and all the hard work done to get in a good position goes down the pan. When that happens enough times it really gets you down and when it happens needlessly from a daft mistake it can make you angry at your teammates or just feel like wondering why you bother. The same applies in defence. When you're struggling the talk tends to stop and without communication defence doesn't work.

I think the Bulls are in this situation. It's obvious than whenever any pressure is applied the heads go down and the players seem to collectively accept defeat as it's happened so many times. That losing run last year seemed to do untold damage IMO. As a result we're seeing a team that's resigned to losing before it's even made an effort to win like on Sunday.

So yes, I do think there's a lack of effort but it's down to an utter lack of confidence that players have in themselves and their teammates. Potter recognises the need to build a winning culture but I think he now knows it won't be done overnight.

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Quote: Bullsfab! "Jeez what a sad life u must lead to read donaldson's twitter!
His nando's outings are his private business which are completely separate to bulls. U can't stop an office worker going to the chippy with a few pals after work can u?! Same as him he is doing this outside of the club's time'"


What's wrong with a bulls fan reading a bulls players twitter?

Players are in the public eye and they must respect what they write on social networks or forums. Unfortunately it has been proven that a fair few don't.

I'm not saying the nandos trip is wrong, but does it need to be aired, especially in the current situation.

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Quote: dixie "What's wrong with a bulls fan reading a bulls players twitter?

Players are in the public eye and they must respect what they write on social networks or forums. Unfortunately it has been proven that a fair few don't.

I'm not saying the nandos trip is wrong, but does it need to be aired, especially in the current situation.'"


Yes a bit of common sense is needed, not a blanket ban. Some of the players - Platt, Walker have been on and apologised in the past, which is a nice touch although I also don't want to see too many apologies - for obvious reasons

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