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Quote: Gurus_Beard "Given your "form", evidently not.

My pleasure. Works in tandem with your irony and similar inability to address a previous point and respond with a mind-blowing "Wow".

But then you will know more than GH obviously, who made the appointment to very clearly place his club in eternal decline. Because he does things like that ya see. Nor will he have consulted the likes of Peacock, Sinfield or Senior regarding Maccas coaching. No, he just wouldn't do that. He should have listened to an internet forum moderator. Because that's where it's really at.'"


GH obviously wouldn't make a decision to deliberately derail his own club but everyone makes mistakes at some stage. Similarly, Peacock, Sinfield and Senior may speak highly of Brian McDermott's coaching ability but, as an example, Steve McNamara received similar plaudits when he took over from Brian Noble. In fact, some senior players still stand right behind McNamara as a coach despite his record at Bradford. It's good to listen to your players but sometimes their views can be clouded by other factors (maybe the player feeling they 'owe' the coach something for a specific role in their development) and somethimes they can just be wrong.

Personally I feel Brian Mac will do alright at Leeds but it's never a simple case of fact and fiction. A number of factors will arise to determine his relative success or failure. But cherry-picking facts to suit your argument for McDermott while ignoring the undeniable positive abilities possessed by Mick Potter is a little disingenuous. Both have pros and cons as coaches and both should go fine with their respective clubs this season.

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I think McDermott is taking over a Leeds side that is very much in transition (whether that's good or bad, remains to be seen). Several mainstays of the side have left both on the pitch and off it (Diskin, Donald, Cummings, Poching), and Leeds will be starting the season without who are commonly regarded as two of their most key players in McGuire and Peacock. I worry for Peacock as to how well he'll come back, if he manages to regain any form at all.

That said, I think it's probably unfair to assume or predict on how well he'll do. I just hope Leeds fans show Brian Mac the patience he deserves.

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Quote: Budenberg "Sod all to do with me? Again, any need to be rude about it? Point out exactly where I defended anyone in this debate. I think you'll find most other posters think Brian Mac will fail at Leeds, where as I do not.
It has everything to do with me as I have a keen interest in Bradford Bulls and rugby league in general so I find the discussion pretty interesting. Didn't know I needed permission to join in certain debates and I am really at a loss to explain why you feel the need to be so hostile. Is it not the point of this message board to provide a forum for discussion and debate?

I have neither the inclination nor the time to go through your previous posts and that is utterly irrelevant to the discussion started here. I'm sure you understood the question I asked was purely rhetorical. I fully understand what McDermott's positive attributes are as I would like to think I'm fairly knowledgeable about the game and take a keen interest in what's going on.

Again, you've knocked back any suggestion Mick Potter could possibly be a good coach while refusing to acknowledge Brain Mac has any faults at all. It really does seem you'll only be satisfied if I back down and agree with you that Potter is garbage and McDermott is outstanding.

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I think he thinks Brian Mac is sooper dooper because he's brought through outstanding talent like Luke May and Martyn Smith. Brill.x

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