To be fair legally binding or not, proving that you were the person that signed up (especially online) is tenuous at best. Most people have multiple users on a single IP address and the "I never signed up to it it must have been my housemate, mum, dad, brother, sister, Some bloke using my wireless) would be an easy get out clause...

THAT SAID.... I seriously doubt there will be that many people dropping out and as some have suggested I would imagine that the number of extra people jumping on board will more than accomodate for them..

Personally can't wait to pickup my membership, even with working various weekend hours and Friday nights it's going to be more than worth it

I think our old 'friend' has a few guises these days - could this be one?

The people trying to get pledges were volunteers weren't they? why would they just go for the signature? any decent pay plan would have comission claw back for bad business. Like you say - beware

Sorry I was referring more in terms of if people wanted to get out of paying (Skint or whatever).......

Regardless it's going to be packed next season, seriously how many people are going to be attracted back (including people like me who could only goto about 7 or 8 games last season due to work commitments). This season even if that's all I can make it to it's a good deal and who knows I might be able to wangle the extra time off due to "being a season ticket holder"

I asked this when pledging. I was told that you could still back out of the pledge at any time and that it was not enforceable because they could not guarantee that tickets would be available @ £60 when the pledge was made.

They must have built some contingency into the plan ie 10,000 pledge and a certain amount drop out. I can't imagine the break even for this scheme is 10,000

The fake pledgers anger me (but I suppose that's what they are trying to do). I just hope there isn't anyone outthere over pledging thinking they are helping! Hopefully this failsafe system can weed this out. I know most web based transaction systems can identify the IP address but there are so many ways we can get access to the internet now.

Let's not get too worried about the 'fake pledges'. I expect there will be a percentage who do not go on to purchase a membership but I also expect it will be a relatively small amount. We're comfortably over 10k and I am sure we'll sell some more to non pledger's.

No doubt the club will release some figures on the actual amount sold after the Nov deadline.

A condition that now no longer applies, since the club has now been able to confirm the prices.

the way it looks to be:

1. Club makes offer of season tickets for sale at £60/£99/as otherwise stated, conditional upon 10,000 pledges.

2. Fan accepts offer by making pledge, again conditional upon 10,000 pledges.

So far, we have an offer, an acceptance, a consideration and an intent to create legal relations (this stated by the club, and in accepting you accept that) so by normal law of contract you have a valid contract? The only complication is that the offer and acceptance were conditional upon a future event happening, that event having now happened. My understanding is that a conditional acceptance is deemed to be a valid acceptance (and therefore a contract is made) provided the offer is made on precisely the same conditional terms. As indeed was the case here.

So my conclusion would be that a pledge did indeed become a valid contract (as opposed to an invitation to treat) - as soon as the club declared the offer, on its original terms, unconditional. As it did on Monday. And I'd bet the mother-in-law on it...

But I'd not bet the house on it. Whilst I deal with a load of commercial law in my work, I'm an accountant not a lawyer - so the above may be way too simplistic, or plain wrong. Where is the 'Vark when you need him...?

I would expect BullDan has it spot on. Online pledges are going to be very difficult to enforce legally as someone could just argue that it wasn't them that filled in the form, and there's no way of proving if it was or not. To be fair, that could be argued by phone or in person too, as I have a couple of friends who would have all the details required to fill the form in on my behalf. I could just turn round and say it wasn't me who filled it in and unless there's a signature or a recording of me doing it, there's no way it can be proved.

As has been said though, anyone who pledged and doesn't pay should be offset by those who didn't pledge but still want to buy one, so no major problem.

That is true, I've just bought mine and bought a spare one too

Hels it's not often you or I for that matter have a rant but I've got to agree with you here, it has been a great initiative by the Bulls to do this and lets be fair it will save some of us a lot of money so someone has to find a way to knock down the amount of work that has gone into this.

Personally I'm pleased and proud of what the Club have achieved, I don't know the 'ifs' and the 'buts' only the Bulls know that and I wouldn't want to know to be honest. I know what I have to pay, in fact we paid when we pledged, it's our own small way of showing our committment to the Bulls and I'm sure we won't be the only one's to have done this.



Some positive thinking in general would go a long way here and just ignore those who are just here to create mischief. One of the first things I was told when I joined RL Fans was Don't feed the Trolls............ it's going to be a long enough closed season as it is



Mini rant over.

Whatever the terms of the agreement, a contract is only enforceable if a party is willing to enforce it.

Bradford may cajole people into turning pledges into season tickets, but I very much doubt that they will ever sue anyone.

Can you imagine the negative publicity of 200 or 2000 fans being sued by the club?