sorry typing error i meant langley

I agree. Langers gets through so much work in defense its unreal. He wasnt great the other day but apart from that. Cant fault him

Langley's problem is that he carries far too much bulk for his height and frame which has nulified his pace. Am I right in thinking he was a pacey mobile LF? Now he just seems a defensive workhorse. I'm suprised noone on the Bulls coaching staff has noticed this.

It's his enormous biceps.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not slagging him off. He never stops trying. All i'm saying is that it's inevitable that someone his size is going to struggle playing 80 minutes, and I don't think that loose forward is his best position. As i've mentioned in a previous thread he doesn't have the footwork or handling skills that IMO a 13 should have.

after recent performances think burgess is our best option at loose forward. He looks much more influential when he plays there and creates a fair bit imo.
langers is a good solid dependable 2nd row who doesnt make many mistakes defensively. He doesnt create that much anymore and seems happy to just take the ball straight up and take the tackle without attempting to offload much. ( the wakey game at odsal being the obvious excpetion where he looked much better than he has for a while.)