Are you absolutely sure this time?

I seem to remember you issuing similarly firm denials when it was suggested you called our great young coach 'McBanana'. We all know what happened then don't we?

The objection is hardly to anyone coining a phrase, but to your rude use of it. But grudging apology accepted. In the light of which I withdraw my claim that your are a "haggis muncher". I am sure that you in reality consume your haggis in a very delicate and seemly manner.

Well I haven't said that at all, personally I think it is patronising when someone expresses a view about the coach and are told in return that they think this because "they expect a coach to be Bennett" or "think we should win easily every week". I have no problem with people being patronised, or taken the p**s out of when they write something that leads to it - it is when people put their own, bizarre, translations to points made and try to attack the opinion on what they want it to say, rather than what it did say, that I take offence.

As a supporter I think my "wants" are all pretty realistic, if I thought everyone was doing their best and the team were playing to their best every week but losing every game I could accept that even though I wouldn't be happy about it - I do not think this is happening, there is far too much underachievement, personally and collectively, at Odsal - and after two and a half years I am getting less and less confident that the current coach is the man to do anything about it, based on what I have seen.

That's the end of my input to this thread for now as during the close season all we can do is go around in circles, hopefully I'll be proved wrong in 2009.

Hmm...


I don't see how my comment can be called a 'bizarre translation' without the point of yours, that it was in direct response to, falling under the exact same definition.

Another appalling effort.

Perhaps you should post in tiny writing so I can pretend I did not see it.

I completely agree. I've no problem (apart from the disapointment) if the team plays to their best but loses. But under McNamara it seems that the players (in the majority, yet there are some exceptions to this) don't really give a toss about the result and the coach covers up their inept performances by citing problems with the ref etc. Now, if we lose out on a tight game because of a bad ref call, then fine, complain about the ref. But if the team rolls over and gets some jail-house love from the opposition then it's not the ref. It's the players and the coach who are at fault. I'm all for the coach trying to produce a "them vs us" mentality. Certain premership managers in football have done that and created a strong team ethic where the team pulls together, however at Bradford it seems the players are all pulling in different directions and until we get someone who can get everyone to pull together we will continue to see more of the same as we have over the last 2 1/2 years

I just don't think ths is the case. Two of the darkest days of the Mac era (Wigan in the play-offs, Hull in the cup) saw us trying too hard if anything and blowing it. Meanwhile, every side that's not winning (certainly every Bradford side I've seen) gets accused of lack of effort by the fans. I'm pretty dubious about fans' ability to discern effort or lack of it from the terraces.

There's plenty to criticise, but I'm not sure effort is particularly one of them.

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Because anytime anyone dares criticise you always have an "answer" for what is causing the problems.

Still. Glad you have finally caught up.

You provide the forthright views, I provide the balance.

Edited for accuracy.