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| Quote: Saddened! "Did anyone see the highlights on sky last night? They go on about conditioning being great at the Wire but they have let Solo balloon up in weight dramatically. He looks like a ball with two legs sticking out of the bottom. If TP ended up like that it would be a shame.
There is just too much talk of him leaving for me. No smoke and all that. It would a horrible situation to be in with our best two forwards leaving at the same time.'"
He might be leaving but im pretty sure he won't be at Warrington.
I think the maybe 2/3 good players to sign for saints yet as well.
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| Quote: St pete " I know a current saints player pretty well. He's told me the only thing stopping him from signing a very good 2yr deal with saints Is family reasons back in oz.'"
what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
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| Quote: nikos "what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
you forgot to add in the fact that your also pretty dim.
Family is a big thing for some people and they put them first. If he feels he would better off in Aus/NZ and he can find a club then I wouldnt hold it against him and neither would any normal Saints fan.
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| Quote: nikos "what a ridiculous comment, - the only thing stopping me from being a brain surgeon is the fact I havent dont a medical degree and I'm cack handed
I'm going off the fact a current first team player who knows TP told me not what a crap rugby newspaper says that is 99% of time wrong.
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| Quote: St pete "I'm going off the fact a current first team player who knows TP told me not what a crap rugby newspaper says that is 99% of time wrong.'"
Just create a new thread called 'TP confirms he is 100% deffo going home to play Aussie rules' or something equally dumb and unfounded and Nosey Parker will have it up in League Weekly as a known fact next week
given a choice I'd believe a current player over that rag
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| Quote: nikos "what a ridiculous comment'"
It's not a ridiculous comment, it's a fact.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Did anyone see the highlights on sky last night? They go on about conditioning being great at the Wire but they have let Solo balloon up in weight dramatically. He looks like a ball with two legs sticking out of the bottom. If TP ended up like that it would be a shame.
There is just too much talk of him leaving for me. No smoke and all that. It would a horrible situation to be in with our best two forwards leaving at the same time.'"
Solomona hardly trains due to injuries ( or maybe laziness!! ) one things for sure though he's still a class act, it's a shame he's in the shape he is because fully fit he'd be one of if not the best second towers in the league. Puletua always impresses me, man mountain of a man and great to watch. Hope he's still in this country tbext season whether that be at saints or wire who knows lol
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| Rower not tower that accolade belongs to pryce at quins/Wigan. Bloody iphones
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| I'll hazard that the loss of Graham may well impact upon Puletua's decision. Looking through his eyes the future at Saints is very uncertain. Two out of the three marquee names gone. Hohaia is coming, but he's 28/29 (Eastmond has seven years on him) and may not be of the same worth (in relation to the competition). The fanbase is currently in decline (as is SL's) and the competition is being attacked on all fronts for talent.
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| Quote: Mugwump "I'll hazard that the loss of Graham may well impact upon Puletua's decision. Looking through his eyes the future at Saints is very uncertain. Two out of the three marquee names gone. Hohaia is coming, but he's 28/29 (Eastmond has seven years on him) and may not be of the same worth (in relation to the competition). The fanbase is currently in decline (as is SL's) and the competition is being attacked on all fronts for talent.'"
Maybe, although I'm not sure Eastmond can be considered a marquee name.
After a largely ineffective season last year due to injury, and the saga of this year, he's not proven himself to be anything other than a youngster with (admittedly great) potential. Lomax has come in and, for me, ticks all the same boxes.
Hohaia will surely carry more clout to TP if he's looking for marquee names to line up alongside him - someone who has been there and done it at the highest level, and young enough to make a huge impact on SL.
Saints fanbase will undoubtedly rise in the new stadium, in fact for season one it will virtually double from where it is now.
His decision will rest on whether he wants to stay in the UK or return Down Under for personal, rather than sporting, reasons IMO.
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| Quote: Cragganmore Kid "Maybe, although I'm not sure Eastmond can be considered a marquee name.
After a largely ineffective season last year due to injury, and the saga of this year, he's not proven himself to be anything other than a youngster with (admittedly great) potential. Lomax has come in and, for me, ticks all the same boxes.
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Let's not allow sentiment to cloud reason here. Until Eastmond showed his cards he was the player Saints were banking on to lead the club forward and I could count on one hand the number of fans in here who were voicing the criticisms they are now.
As for proving himself - he did so against the toughest opposition in the world (the Kangaroos and Kiwis) and was the standout player for Saints in the GF.
Quote: Cragganmore Kid "Hohaia will surely carry more clout to TP if he's looking for marquee names to line up alongside him - someone who has been there and done it at the highest level, and young enough to make a huge impact on SL.'"
There is no "surely" about it. Hohaia is 28/29 and has ten years of extremely hard miles on the clock. For all we know he could be the next Bradley Clyde or Brett Mullins - two players who would "surely" improve Leeds - and gobble up four years of money with little in return.
Quote: Cragganmore Kid "Saints fanbase will undoubtedly rise in the new stadium, in fact for season one it will virtually double from where it is now.'"
Saints fan base will rise. But whether it will rise to the extent McManus hoped for three years ago I'm not sure. We are in the middle of a seemingly endless economic stagnation and people may not be able to attend the games they used to.
Quote: Cragganmore Kid "His decision will rest on whether he wants to stay in the UK or return Down Under for personal, rather than sporting, reasons IMO.'"
I very much doubt Puletua won't care about what's going on around him. Top players (in all sports) are known for the fickleness. Winners like to be in the company of fellow winners.
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| I think we should wait and see what TP does and see what McManus has in mind with regards to recruitment before we wave the white flag Mugwump.
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| Quote: Mugwump "There is no "surely" about it. Hohaia is 28/29 and has ten years of extremely hard miles on the clock. For all we know he could be the next Bradley Clyde or Brett Mullins - two players who would "surely" improve Leeds - and gobble up four years of money with little in return.
I very much doubt Puletua won't care about what's going on around him. Top players (in all sports) are known for the fickleness. Winners like to be in the company of fellow winners.'" That's a gamble with any big player, that they won't function as well once they change their enviroment.
Talking about winners though, Hohaia has won the 4(tri) Nations and the World Cup, which isn't bad.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Let's not allow sentiment to cloud reason here. Until Eastmond showed his cards he was the player Saints were banking on to lead the club forward and I could count on one hand the number of fans in here who were voicing the criticisms they are now.
As for proving himself - he did so against the toughest opposition in the world (the Kangaroos and Kiwis) and was the standout player for Saints in the GF.
There is no "surely" about it. Hohaia is 28/29 and has ten years of extremely hard miles on the clock. For all we know he could be the next Bradley Clyde or Brett Mullins - two players who would "surely" improve Leeds - and gobble up four years of money with little in return.
Saints fan base will rise. But whether it will rise to the extent McManus hoped for three years ago I'm not sure. We are in the middle of a seemingly endless economic stagnation and people may not be able to attend the games they used to.
I very much doubt Puletua won't care about what's going on around him. Top players (in all sports) are known for the fickleness. Winners like to be in the company of fellow winners.'"
Mugwump are you feeling a little down.
We are currently playing without said Eastmond and doing very nicely thankyou. If we where not so injured it would be debatable whether we would currently be top.
Graham going will probably have little effect on TP's choice. In the end it's the money and the family pull of the NRL that will decide TP's mind. I'm sure he's beyond the well if he's not playing then I'm not playing.
We have no clue on the replacement for Graham. If TP is looking at the future of Saints, he can see it playing around him every week and sat on the injury table. This is the same squad which has got so far in the season without a full side yet to play.
Put Perry, Clough, LMS in that pack, it does not look too bad. Then add Roby and it looks awesome. With Soliola and Puletua it's incredibly strong, Graham is a loss, but still one of the best packs in the league, if not the best.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Saints fan base will rise. But whether it will rise to the extent McManus hoped for three years ago I'm not sure. We are in the middle of a seemingly endless economic stagnation and people may not be able to attend the games they used to.'"
Before we moved to Widnes, when Saints fans decided to opt for going to the pub in greater numbers than usual, we had been averaging around 11,000 to 11,500 in the previous two seasons, if memory serves, and our gate had been steadily rising in spite of playing in a hole of a ground. I have every confidence that the numbers will go up again next season and we may see even greater growth as the fans who stayed away from KR due to its condition and lack of seating feel able to join in the live action.
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