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Quote: saintcj "Lets be honest St Helens really isnt a good night out anyway. Your not that unlikely to get into trouble without actually doing anything.

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I don't think that is strictly true. I manage to have nights out without any hassle. Then again Im quite selective about where I go.

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Quote: Div "I don't think that is strictly true. I manage to have nights out without any hassle. Then again Im quite selective about where I go.'"


Aye, don't get much trouble int conny club icon_lol.gif Or at Darby and Joan nights.

There's no "blood tub" at Fingerpost anymore. I was in that night when Dicko knocked one of the committee men over a table with one punch and killed him.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aye, don't get much trouble int conny club

grew up with alec.

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Quote: The Doghead "grew up with alec.'"


We were on stage at the time rehearsing. I knew Alex and Betty quite well as he was good friends with my brother in law who sadly died of throat cancer a few years ago.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aye, don't get much trouble int conny club

Well there are certain places I definitely wouldnt go and I count places with pictures of Lizzy or Thatcher on the wall in that !!!

Not familiar with the other incident, was that just after the war ? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: bewareshadows "It would not be beyond the relms of possibility Saints fan, that a poster on here, could be a Police man or a person with connections to police work and therefore have access to such footage. .'"

I doubt a police officer would make that claim on an internet discussion board. They would not acknowledge any knowledge of an incident or they would state they could not comment on the incident.

If a person claims to know 'as a fact' something on here then they shouldn't be surprised if they are asked to substantiate their claim, particularly when there is a police investigation ongoing. Most people state something as 'a fact' when what they really mean is that somebody they know/trust who may or may not have seen what happened told them about it. But that doesn't make it fact.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I doubt a police officer would make that claim on an internet discussion board. They would not acknowledge any knowledge of an incident or they would state they could not comment on the incident.

If a person claims to know 'as a fact' something on here then they shouldn't be surprised if they are asked to substantiate their claim, particularly when there is a police investigation ongoing. Most people state something as 'a fact' when what they really mean is that somebody they know/trust who may or may not have seen what happened told them about it. But that doesn't make it fact.'"



Yes but if they do know something as fact, it doesn't mean they can give proof of that as if they are in a position where they have seen the tape and shouldn't or have seen the tape and should not be telling people that they have, then they are hardly going to say, hey I'm joe bloggs, my job is and this is how I saw it.

Just the same as on the DA thread, when I said that the house hunting had to be rumour. I knew the reasons why as fact, but does not mean I'll tell everyone else why.

DA has just bopped the rumours on the head today anyways.

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Quote: bewareshadows "It would not be beyond the relms of possibility Saints fan, that a poster on here, could be a Police man or a person with connections to police work and therefore have access to such footage.

So they could have viewed it but cannot openly say so.

Another angle could be that they work for security firms that monitor such equipment. If the poster is stating facts that they have seen the footage these would be the most obvious answers, but there are other options such as knowing people at the club in question , or someone from the club copying the tape and sending it out via mobile phones.

There could be a few reasons why the footage has been seen, I see no reason for a poster to say they have seen something they have not. Especially if they are a moderator, and would look rather silly to claim to have seen an event, which once it goes to court would prove to be false.'"


Or someone on here might even know sia and rang him to see if he's ok and got told the story.

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Quote: St pete "Or someone on here might even know sia and rang him to see if he's ok and got told the story.'"

That would be the story from Sia's POV?

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Quote: SaintsFan "That would be the story from Sia's POV?'"


So you're suggesting Sia kicked off? You're going to look a bit daft when the truth comes out if you are.

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Quote: SaintsFan "That would be the story from Sia's POV?'"



Yes and I totally beleive it.

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Quote: BackrowSaint "So you're suggesting Sia kicked off? You're going to look a bit daft when the truth comes out if you are.'"

When did I even get close to suggesting that?

That's right. I didn't!

I said Sia's POV. 'POV' means point of view.

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Quote: SaintsFan "When did I even get close to suggesting that?

That's right. I didn't!

I said Sia's POV. 'POV' means point of view.'"


I didn't say you did, I was asking if you was hence the question mark.

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Quote: BackrowSaint "I didn't say you did, I was asking if you was hence the question mark.'"

Your question was rhetorical because you began it 'So you are ...' You already thought you knew my answer and your tone was just a tad derisory.

No police officer worth their salt will take one person's word against another. They will seek corroborating evidence. If the three men in question are finally charged with assault then that is because the police will have established enough corroborating evidence to suggest there is a case to be answered. However, just because Sia sees things one way (his way) - something that is totally natural - does not actually mean that an assault was committed. Therefore, when Sia tells his story it will be from his point of view. Things could look different from somebody else's point of view.

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