Good win for Wire that one.

Saints once again gave an 18 point head start. It was like shades of the first 3 or 4 weeks where we gave away 16, 18 and 20 head starts to other teams. The first try was very good pressure from Monaghan a good example of the phrase you make your own luck. But then we just gave Warrington too many favours for the next 10 minutes. Ok the knock on not knock on, could have gone either way, in the end you'll see those types of drops in none try positions just get blown up the ref won't even consider whether the ball went back or not. But then later we knocked on 2 times at the wires end and the Wire fullback was away, so you could say it evened out when the ref pulled it back.

Apart from a terrible 10 minutes we played well as a team and the forwards were 100% better than last week.

Ok the top 2 is beyond us, but we are still in the hunt for the playoffs, and the CC. We will not have the mental edge come those games due to the losses to wigan , wire and huddersfield. But we will still be in the hunt and to be honest, being in the hunt is pretty good, many a team could be well out of the hunt by now. This is not a finished side, it's a side building for the future and we just need to have consistent performances for the full 80 each week.

The talent is there, but the consistency during a match and from week to week is not.

Brutal honesty one my part Wire didn't win that game Saints lost it.

tony stark wants to grow up....you lot played well tonight.tho i dont think you`ll be at old trafford you wont be far away.at the moment i put at 4th seeds behind us wigan and shudds,you wont go any higher but watch out for leeds...great game tonight..thats what matters most

Not sure about the logic.
we complain = he makes worse decisions against us;
so we should complain again = even worse decisions surely?

Am on holiday in turkey so missed the game but getting conflicting reports whether we were cheated by ref and vr? who is right?

And that is a problem when you have so many young players in your side, as we found out back in 2003/204.

Exactly and if we ever get Clough and Pryce back (the later i am finding increasingly doubtful) and both can produce some usual form, and of course we don't get any other injuries, I think we are in great shape team wise. What concerns me is the levels of intensity we put in, it is so up and down. I'd also like to see us stop using the drop off pass after first receiver as it clearly doesn't work in gaining yards and is easier to read than a copy of the Daily Sport.

Care to expand and enlighten on that?

Here's a question for you all, especially Ski.


Is LMS is really that much (salary cap wise) better than Bryn. Could the money have been better spent elsewhere?

Well hopefully we wont 'fix' it the way you did.

It all depends how low you sink.

The obstruction certainly was, it sent Meli (a large bloke) in a spin which made him lose his balance and stopped him being able to put his full weight into the tackle he was turning around to make. If it had been say Sam Tomkins or Myler then they would have been put well into backplay after the contact and obstruction would have been given straight away.

To be fair I thought LMS had a better match tonight than last week, (although not that hard) I think the problem for bryn was that he offered no more than any other average forward, which I think some of the Bradford fans have noticed this year. He will do hard work but offers little else, LMS just seams to be under performing from what we expected, but then so has perry. The only difference has been that Perry has been in and out with injury so has some reason for his patchy form. LMS has had consistent games, could just be a case of a good player standing out in a poor team, where as at Saints he does not catch the eye like Soliola, TP and Graham.